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phantomxdino

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im looking to get a 302 block out of a f150 for my 88 gt what is the diffrence between my stock 302 and the 302 out of the trucks? Is it just the heads and the blocks are pretty much the same or is there a big diffrence
 

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Depends on the year of the truck. Should be the same.
 

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Any 86 + short block will be direct fit, early 80's have minor differences that will not be a big issue unless you find a real early block without roller cam.
 
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Things that will need to be changed are (I believe), the oil pan and timing cover... couple other pieces...


Here... make it easy. I found a kit on Summit for the conversion:

Ford Racing M-6670-A50 - Ford Racing Engine Conversion Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com
 

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1988 and up 302 trucks came with roller blocks but had flat tappet cam until around '91 before the roller showed up in the trucks. some of the older trucks could have non roller blocks in them.
 
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greensvt21 said:
1988 and up 302 trucks came with roller blocks but had flat tappet cam until around '91 before the roller showed up in the trucks. some of the older trucks could have non roller blocks in them.
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Question: Weren't the 85+ truck engines roller blocks? i could have sworn that the block, heads, and intake on the 86 Stang were all brought over from the previous year's trucks.
 

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DontGivaRatz said:
Question: Weren't the 85+ truck engines roller blocks? i could have sworn that the block, heads, and intake on the 86 Stang were all brought over from the previous year's trucks.
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basically from research and from reading all '88 and up trucks have the roller block for sure. in '85 all H.O. manual transmission stangs got roller blocks the auto's did not. some '85 and "all" '86 stangs and cars had roller blocks just not all had roller cams. not sure if trucks made it out with any but from what I have read doubt it, after '90-'91 they got roller cams. This is from stuff I have read, best thing to do is measure the deck height and check the block #'s if it's an older truck to make sure.

here is some quick more info here..
post # 29
First year of roller truck blocks. - Page 2 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

post # 2,7, & 13
First year of roller truck blocks. - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

also
87-91 Ford 302 / Ford 5.0 Engine (Part #: FORD-302LB-5)
 
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Damn... that's a lot of variations. lol More than I thought there were.
 

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DontGivaRatz said:
Damn... that's a lot of variations. lol More than I thought there were.
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That's what I was thinking

In '91 they used a race block, crazy what they do for certian years or models.
 
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That's what I was thinking

In '91 they used a race block, crazy what they do for certian years or models.
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the motor im looking at is out of a 91 bronco, did they use the race block in the bronco's also? I also have done some research and sounds like the best way to tell if a motor is a roller is to pull a valve cover and look for a dogbone around the lifter. How would you know if it was a race block with out checking block numbers?
 

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phantomxdino said:
the motor im looking at is out of a 91 bronco, did they use the race block in the bronco's also? I also have done some research and sounds like the best way to tell if a motor is a roller is to pull a valve cover and look for a dogbone around the lifter. How would you know if it was a race block with out checking block numbers?
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have no idea I stumble across that info myself. you would have to check the #'s and find out that way from some one who knew. The best bet if you are looking at truck motors is check out the bronco forums or ford truck forums for block #'s etc.
 
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