67 Restoration Questions

jackarnd

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Hello Everyone,
I am new to this forum as well as new to restoring classic cars. I recently inherited a 1967 coupe 289 v2, 3 speed, in frost turquoise. It belonged to my step-father and he was the second owner of the car. He parked it in the garage 30 years ago and did not drive it anymore. The odometer has 79000 original miles on it and the car has all original equipment on/in it. Since it has been sitting so long, I assume it will need plenty of work to bring it back as it is currently not running. The body is straight, just some minor dings, scratches, nicks, etc. Since the car is all original, what is the best plan on restoring it? Should I bring it all back to original or modify it? How does the choice affect value in the long run? From what I have read, the coupes were the largest production, but is the 289 with a 3 speed common or not? Would I see a better value if I leave it all original?
Thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
Dan
 
The 289 2V 3-speed was very common in 67, but with the emphasis at car shows on performance engines, fastbacks, GT's, etc., such a car would actually be a rarity. I suggest to plan to keep it as-is, at least for now, and get it running properly. In long-term storage like that, even it was prepared, you'll have problems.

Get the Factory Service Manual before you begin.

The engine should have the plugs pulled, and light oil injected into the cylinders before cranking it over. It should also have the oil changed. I would pull the distributor and pressurize the oil system first, too. Do a complete tune-up, with new plugs, wires, etc. Then change the oil again shortly after you get it started, before driving it.

Replace the belts, hoses, and coolant in the engine. Replacing the heater hoses is tricky, the fastest and easiest way to do that is to disconnect the heater from the firewall, and drop it down.

The oil in the transmission and rear axle should be changed, and the PS fluid if you have PS.

The fuel system should be drained and flushed.

The brake system will need the most attention. The worst thing you can do to a hydraulic system is not use it. The brakes should be fully bled, and frankly I'd replace the master and wheel cylinders, and take a real close look at the rubber hoses and steel lines. The slightest hint of deterioration and I'd replace them, too.
 
Thanks for the reply 2+2

Unfortunately it wasn't prepared before being parked, so I probably have quite a bit of work to do. This will be my first project and I hope to do a lot of the work myself. I am mechanically inclined, but have limited experience in working on cars. What would you suggest is the best place for me to get parts and such?
Thanks for the help.
I posted 2 additional pictures in the Classic talk forum of the front and engine.
 

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Yeah, that's a nice looking car, don't hack it. Modded Mustangs are dime-a-dozen, but a clean original machine like yours is rare. What's more, if you show it, you'll have an advantage over some high-option GT, because his options don't help him gain points, and will hurt him if they are not perfect.

Just get the manual and do all of the stuff I listed. These cars are resilient, I've seen them come out of years of storage and fire right up and run fine.
 
Dan,
That car is nothing but a pile of junk taking up otherwise useful space in your garage. Being that you're a new guy here, I'd be willing to do you the favor of getting it out of your garage for you to make space for more useful stuff that your wife might want to put there.:D
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On a more serious note, the car appears to be a pretty choice piece, especially if that paint is still original. Even with a few nicks and dings, paint can only be original "ONCE", and hides no sins! Interior looks pretty good. Everything already suggested are a great start. Brakes, top to bottom are a top priority! Jack it up, pull a front wheel and see if the fronts are drum or disc. If they are disc :nice: awesome. If drum, you need to decide if you want to spend the $$ (expect $75-$350 depending) to refurb the old, inferior front drum setup or use that $$ towards a fairly wide range of good options for upgrading to front disc brakes ranging from around $350 to $1200. If you upgrade, I suggest you go with a non-exotic setup that uses standard, easily available, OEM style off the shelf parts that won't compromise originality, but will make the car safer and more modern feeling. To elaborate a bit on 2+2GT's suggestion, pull all spark plugs, fill each cylinder with Marvel Mystery Oil and let it sit for a few days before trying to turn the engine. Disconnect the fuel line from the carb and from the frame to the fuel pump. Put in a new or known to be good battery and with the coil to center of the distributor cap wire removed and plugs still out and some old rags/towels to catch the spewing oil, turn the key to spin the engine over a couple of times to clear the oil from the cylinders. Drain the old oil and remove/replace oil filter (Motorcraft preferred "NO" Fram or Pennzoil filters) and refill with oil. If you are not comfortable/experienced with pulling/reinstalling the distributor, you will likely be okay with still leaving the plugs out and spinning the motor with the starter in 5 second bursts, 5 or 6 times, taking a 10 second or so break in between, to pump/distribute oil though the system. Install a new set of points and condenser in the distributor and adjust them (we can lead you through this, if needed), install new, properly gapped (.035" I think) spark plugs. Put in a new fuel filter and reconnect the fuel line to the carb. Get a 12-15 foot piece of 3/8" fuel hose and connect one end to the fuel pump inlet (where you removed the hose from the frame and stick the other end into a preferably steel gas can (3/4 full of gas and as far from the car as possible) pour an ounce or so of gas down into the carb by opening the choke plate by hand (air cleaner removed, obviously) and try cranking the engine while pumping/tickling the gas pedal and see if it will fire up. If it starts or tries to start and dies out, repeat the priming process a few times to see if the fuel pump will start sucking gas from the can. If it keeps starting and dying after a couple seconds, you likely need a fuel pump. Check this by removing the fuel line from the carb, disconnecting coil wire and cranking the engine for a second or two to see if fuel comes out of the line. If it starts and runs, don't run for more than 45 seconds to a minute until you drain the old antifreeze/coolant (if there is any) and refill with only distilled water or distilled water/antifreeze mixture (I don't know where you are or the related freezing issues). Never use tap water in a cooling system, distilled only. If all has gone well, you should now be able to run the engine for a bit to see if any ticking/odd noises get better and for possible smoking to subside, keeping an eye out for overheating and coolant flow. If the car will now run, now is the time to remove the gas tank (pretty easy/simple) and have it checked/cleaned or replace with a new one for about $100-$130. My vote is for new. Old gas tank crud can plague you for years until you bite the bullet and take care of it properly. Flush the fuel lines by blowing some compressed air through it and then squirt a whole can or two of Brake cleaner to kind of fill it and then blow it out again. Once flushed, replace the hose portions at the gas tank, under the floor beneath drivers left foot and the piece from the frame to the fuel pump. Now would also be the time to start addressing the brakes. Master Cylinder, wheel cylinders and hoses at minimum. Please keep us posted with your progress and questions. These old Mustangs can be a lot of fun to work on and drive, especially when you're not fighting battles with rust or collision damage.
Happy Motoring,
Gene
 
Dan,
I forgot, most tune-up, engine, brake and steering parts are common and easily found at local parts stores. For specialized, Mustang only parts, check the vendors list near the top of the page. There are also many other top notch suppliers such as National Parts Depot, Mustangs Unlimited to name just a couple. PM me for some other communities you may want to check out. Oh, by the way, make sure you lube up those hood hinges, etc, with some WD40 or such to avoid damaging your hood.
Good Luck
 
In the first place just forget about "value". Don't build the car for some hypothetical future buyer. You are going to be upside down in it financially no matter if you go dead stock or restomod.

That being said, you have a coupe and it will never be worth a whole lot of money no matter what you do. By a "whole lot of money" I mean enough to put your kids through college or add an addition onto your house or quit your job. You could drop $100K into it and it MIGHT be worth $25K when you are done.

Deep down you know what you want to do to the car. Make yourself happy. If you don't you will always regret it and maybe come to resent the car.
 
I agree. Keep it stock. I am restoring my 65 Coupe 289 3 speed on the floor and starting in the engine compartment. When I took the fuel pump off and pulled the filter out of it there was thick reddish stuff in the bottom of the canister that the filter goes into. So this tells me maybe the fuel take might be the same way and this car was not in storage for years as your was. Yours looks like a really nice start. As said "fix the car for you and your pleasure and do not worry about selling it later". Mine has the bench seat which I found out is kinda rare. But I really love them. Enjoy your classic.
 
It depends on what you want. You can modify it with bolt on parts and keep your old parts should you ever want it back original. You are the only person that knows what you really want so do what suits yourself the best. I definitely wouldn't distort the body any but then again it is your car.