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so I have recently started working on my 89 mustang and I have an issue withe the ignition when I turn my key to accessory the key comes out but when I put it in off it dose not come out I have tried other ignition switches and still have the same issue any thoughts btw new to fixing cars
 

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Man, the key in the dump truck would not turn to acc at all. You have to pull the key switch out and on the bottom end there is gear with 3 or 4 teeth that match the 3 or 4 teeth down in the hole the switch came out of. Reach in there with a flat blade screw driver and move that gear tooth forward a click, make sure the key is in the same position when it was removed, then slide it back in.
Sometimes there is a problem with the switch down on the column where the wires plug in. Is the the switch that you replaced recently?
 
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I am sorry I ment cylinders I don't know why I was thinking switches just relised that
 

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Ok, if the gear move don't work look at the switch down the column.
 
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General karthief said:
Ok, if the gear move don't work look at the switch down the column.
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will do thanks for the advice and if the gear one dose not work would I just click it back to how it was originally before I start messing with the switch or could I just leave it
 

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Yeah, but understand that I'm not there. So you may have to move it the other way, it's been an minute, You're synchronizing the key to the switch on the lower part of the column. There is the gear that pushes/pulls a piece of linkage that moves the internal part in the electrical switch.
This is exactly how I did the truck: (basically the same key start system) moved the gear in the column till the started engaged, released it so it was in the run position like you weere gonna drive away. Inserted the key switch in the run position, turned key to off, then lock, then acc to make sure it was in the right position, turn key to start and it worked, everything is fine now.
Did I get lucky?
Likely yes.
I called it a win.
 
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General karthief said:
Yeah, but understand that I'm not there. So you may have to move it the other way, it's been an minute, You're synchronizing the key to the switch on the lower part of the column. There is the gear that pushes/pulls a piece of linkage that moves the internal part in the electrical switch.
This is exactly how I did the truck: (basically the same key start system) moved the gear in the column till the started engaged, released it so it was in the run position like you weere gonna drive away. Inserted the key switch in the run position, turned key to off, then lock, then acc to make sure it was in the right position, turn key to start and it worked, everything is fine now.
Did I get lucky?
Likely yes.
I called it a win.
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got it
 
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dang moving it up a click did not work it just acted like nothing changed rip
 

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Can you engage the starter with the screwdriver using it to turn the gear?
 
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General karthief said:
Can you engage the starter with the screwdriver using it to turn the gear?
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the most I can turn with with the screw driver is turn on all the gauge lights and stuff will not let me turn it more I tried but I just seem to not be able to get another turn in
 

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Try to get us a pic of the bottom of the key cylinder and the hole it goes into.
 
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Can you engage the starter with the screwdriver using it to turn the gear?
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I could try again but the first attempt earlier today I don't think I could of
 
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I could try again but the first attempt earlier today I don't think I could of
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just could not get a good grip to turn
 
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General karthief said:
Try to get us a pic of the bottom of the key cylinder and the hole it goes into.
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So I figure you have not taken that snap ring off, so the gears are not exposed but you still should be able to turn the mechanism with a screw driver in the kinda square opening and turn it to start, the key cylinder will likely only slid in two positions opposite each other,
I believe your next move is to inspect the switch under the dash on the column, look for the rod that pushes/pulls the switch mechanism, turn the key, does it move?
Is the connector to the switch tightly plugged in? See any burnt marks?
You will likely need scruity torks bits, local parts store have them really cheap, you'll see what I mean when you see the screw heads securing the switch to the column.
I'm thinking switch issue?
 

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Sounds about right general.
 
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