95 Mustang Will Not Start

Dohwalkmadogg

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ok so...

i went out to start it and nothing..

i thought it was the battery at first because i popped another battery into it and it started. well drove it to the store and the same thing happened.

i got it to start by disconnecting the negative battery cable and turning the key to the on position and reconnecting it...then started it just fine.

well this is what began my journey on the alarm system installed on it ( Fords "Code Alarm" ).

I removed the system all together. the PO installed this using wire tap connectors so i did not have to reconnect anything i simply cut out the code alarm brain box....with the exception of a wire that ran to the ignition white with a pink stripe..i had to reconnect this one.

so now when i connect the battery i get the clicking from the CCRM and with each click my check engine flashes..

if i turn the key to the on position the click stops and the check engine stays illuminated.

the clicking will also stop if i try to turn the lights on, move the electric seats, press the brake pedal..btw none of this stuff will work.

i get no power to anything except for what seems to be the CCRM and the illuminated check engine light.
 
No Crank checklist for 5.0 Mustangs

Revised 24-Oct-2013 to update voltage drop figures.

No crank, slow crank and stuck starter solenoid problems have the same root causes – low battery voltage and poor connections. For that reason, they are grouped together.
Use the same initial group of tests to find the root cause of slow crank, no crank and stuck solenoid problems.

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…


1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery for low charge and dead cells. A good battery will measure 12-13 volts at full charge with the ignition switch in the Run position but without the engine running.
A voltmeter placed across the battery terminals should show a minimum of 9.5-10 volts when the ignition switch is turned to the Start position and the starter engages or tries to engage. Less than this will result in a clicking solenoid, or slow cranking (if it cranks at all) or a starter solenoid that sticks and welds the contacts together.

Most auto parts stores will check your battery for free. It does not have to be installed in the car to have it checked; you can carry it with you to the auto parts store.

The battery posts and inside of the battery post terminals should be scraped clean with a knife or battery post cleaner tool. This little trick will fix a surprising number of no start problems.

The clamp on with 2 bolts battery terminal ends are a known problem causer. Any place you see green on a copper wire is corrosion. Corrosion gets in the clamped joint and works its way up the wire under the insulation. Corroded connections do not conduct electricity well. Avoid them like the plague...

If the starter solenoid welds the contacts, then the starter will attempt to run anytime there is power in the battery. The cables and solenoid will get very hot, and may even start smoking. The temporary fix for a welded starter solenoid is to disconnect the battery and smack the back of the solenoid housing a sharp blow with a hammer. This may cause the contacts to unstick and work normally for a while.


A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection while trying to start the car: more than .25 volts across a connection indicates a problem. The voltage drop tests need to be done while cranking the engine. It's the current flowing through a connection or wire that causes the voltage drop.

See http://assets.fluke.com/appnotes/automotive/beatbook.pdf for help for help troubleshooting voltage drops across connections and components. .

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Voltage drops should not exceed the following:
200 mV Wire or cable
300 mV Switch or solenoid
100 mV Ground
0.0V Connections
A voltage drop lower that spec is always acceptable.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground down near the oil filter, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall. All grounds should be clean and shiny. Use some sandpaper to clean them up.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter solenoid next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

The rest of the tech note only concerns no crank problems. If your problem was a stuck solenoid, go back to step 1.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (small red/blue wire) off the starter solenoid (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it cranks, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.

Typical start circuit...
Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds
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6.) Pull the starter and take it to AutoZone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.


Starter solenoid wiring for 86-91 Mustang
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Starter solenoid wiring 92-93 Mustang or earlier Mustang with upgraded high torque mini starter.
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Electrical checks for the switches and starter solenoid

Remove the small red/blue wire from the starter solenoid. Use a screwdriver to bridge the connection from the battery positive connection on the starter solenoid to the small screw where the red/blue wire was connected. The starter should crank the engine. If it does not, the starter solenoid is defective or the battery lacks sufficient charge to crank the engine.

If the starter does crank the engine, the problem is in the clutch safety circuit (5 speed) or Neutral Sense Switch (auto trans) or ignition switch.


See the Typical start circuit diagram above for wiring information for troubleshooting.

You will need a voltmeter or test lamp for the rest of the checks. Connect one lead of the voltmeter or test lamp to ground. The other lead will connect to the item under test.
Look for 12 volts on the white/pink wire when the ignition switch is turned to the Start position. Check the ignition switch first.
No 12 volts, replace the ignition switch.

The next step will require you to push the clutch pedal to the floor (5 speed) or put the transmission in neutral (auto trans) while the ignition switch is turned to the Start position.
Good 12 volts, check the clutch safety switch (5 speed) or Neutral Sense Switch (auto trans) for good 12 volts on both sides of the switches. No 12 volts on both sides of the switch and the switches are defective or out of adjustment. Check the wiring for bad connections while you are at it.
 
I'm sorry i should add that it is a 95 gt auto trans. my concern is that i have no power to anything. i have to keep the negative battery cable off other wise i just get a clicking sound from the CCRM and a blink check engine. i will add that the ignition fuse was blown, i replaced it. i don't think a bad CCRM would cause no power to any electrical components at all? i have never messed with a fusible link before but maybe one blew? if so which one do i start checking first?
 
I'm sorry i should add that it is a 95 gt auto trans. my concern is that i have no power to anything. i have to keep the negative battery cable off other wise i just get a clicking sound from the CCRM and a blink check engine. i will add that the ignition fuse was blown, i replaced it. i don't think a bad CCRM would cause no power to any electrical components at all? i have never messed with a fusible link before but maybe one blew? if so which one do i start checking first?
Follow the checklist, it will work for 95 Mustangs as well.
 
I'm sorry i should add that it is a 95 gt auto trans. my concern is that i have no power to anything. i have to keep the negative battery cable off other wise i just get a clicking sound from the CCRM and a blink check engine. i will add that the ignition fuse was blown, i replaced it. i don't think a bad CCRM would cause no power to any electrical components at all? i have never messed with a fusible link before but maybe one blew? if so which one do i start checking first?
This jrichker guy don't know what he is do'n, I wouldn't pay any attention to all that gibberish that he spent time posting for you in the above post, there are so many things you are going to chase and get different results from because, never mind, you'll figuare it out,
 
This jrichker guy don't know what he is do'n, I wouldn't pay any attention to all that gibberish that he spent time posting for you in the above post, there are so many things you are going to chase and get different results from because, never mind, you'll figuare it out,
That is the wrong thing to say, as it could/can be taken as serious coming from you. Whether or not it was intended to be sarcastic. One things for damn sure.

Jrichker KNOWS what he's doing.
 
That is the wrong thing to say, as it could/can be taken as serious coming from you. Whether or not it was intended to be sarcastic. One things for damn sure.

Jrichker KNOWS what he's doing.
That was my point, sorry didn't look the way it was intended, I get kinda testy sometimes when someone is given a proven way to diagnose and repair something then repeats the symptom. His tech pages helped me to fix a couple issues within a few minutes after chasing my tail for more than a couple days. To continue to talk about the problem after given the pathway to an repair makes me think a: didn't like the answer b: is not going to put the effort it would take to do the repair.
Most people are smarter than me and I appreciate their efforts to help and I hopefully learn from them.
jrichker is a mechanical hero to me, like davedacarpainter is a paint hero, I also admire you mike, you have the ability to do something two and three times without tossing it through the windshield or into the neighbors yard.
noobz, 74 and 91 have honorable mentions.
 
ok so i'm running through the checklist, i get no power to fuse 18..i should have 12 volts correct? additionally i plugged the anti theft module back in just in case i messed something up there..no change. if i remove the ignition fuse from the engine bay the CCRM will not click with the battery hooked up but now it will click if i turn the key to on.
 
I wish i had a starter solenoid like the fox..which is the engine bay correct? call me dumb lol but i do not tinker so much with electrical. ive had a fox before and im pretty sure i know what your talking about,..i have seen it started from that solenoid before. also checked for voltage at the ignition, white/pink and i do not get power to it.
 
might i add...anytime i mess with ignition wiring it can change whats happeneing..

no ign fuse - no clicking from CCRM
no ign fuse(alarm disabled via FOB) - Clicking from CCRM
no ign fuse (IGN wire, wired back together--no alaram killswitch--) - CCRM clicking.


ign fuse - clicking from CCRM

this is crazy..
 
Ok, did a little search for ya, tmoss and stangs2birds I think will get you some wire diagrams to help,
I just did a search here on the search forums button
I know that wire go's to the ignition but where does it originate from.
I looking for a member to help here
Can @jrichker give us a hand with a 95 no start issue?
Please,
 
Back to the checklist...
1.) Will the car start if it is jumpered with a running car?
Jumper cables are a must have item with a 22 year old car... Don't leave home without them...