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'99-'00 GT's - how common is highway pinging?

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ScottyG00GT

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I had a pinging problem with my '00 GT - it always used to run fine on 87, but this year it started pinging when I would step on the gas moderately to hard in fifth gear at 65 mph or so. The car has about 75k miles on it. I tried all the usual cures (cleaned MAF, ran injector cleaner, etc.) to no avail. Took it to Ford and after checking everything (plugs, etc.) they detected a bad MAF sensor so they replaced that, and the pinging is definitely alleviated, but is still there somewhat. I also put the stock airbox back on, since I didn't want my K&N causing any more MAF sensor contamination.

After talking about the continued (but much less severe) pinging with my service guy, we determined that I should try blending some premium into each tank of gas. Yesterday I mixed about 4.5 gallons of 93 into my tank of 87 (the equivalent of slightly higher than 89, I think) and the problem seems to have gone away (for now, anyway).

My question is this - at 75k on this engine, is blending my gas forever or running higher-octane something I just have to live with, or is it worth taking back to Ford to investigate further and possibly get it back to consistent combustion on 87? This is a very reputable dealer and I trust them, and my car has 75k miles on it so there may be a mileage factor here. I am just trying to see if this is typical for a car of mine's mileage. I hear that higher octane gas causes carbon buildup in cars not made for it, so I'd like to run as close to 87 if I can.

I realize that these cars always had some tip-in pinging, but the car has definitely had more detonation at 75k than it did when it was younger.

Any insight you can give me would be helpful in my deciding whether to worry about having the dealer look at it again.
 

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At 65 it is what 1600 RPM ish? I don't know I have an Auto. But if you are pulling from too low with too much throttle,you are probably luggig the engine.

Somethings to do if this has been a cumlative thing:
1. Run some seafoam through the gas, crank and PCV.
2. Clean your MAF.
 

mity2

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I don't think mine ever pings at highway speed...And i use.....well, cheap gas.
 
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Have you advanced your timing? Perhaps you should just burn higher octane gas...
 

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Hell I can never, ever run anything less then 93 or better.
Oil issues is what I hear and bad factory tune cause the most ping.

The guy with THREE pingers !
 

helty

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ive always wondered what exactly pinging is. is it a slight rattle sound coming from the engine when its running lean? or am i way off? can someone explain it in a little more detail? thanks
 

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You've probably accumulated some carbon and sludge deposits throughout your engine over the years. Like stated above, run a can of Seafoam through the system (although I would suck it into the intake track rather than pour it into the fuel system, myself) and see what it does for you. Check out this thread for directions… http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=561567
 

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helty said:
ive always wondered what exactly pinging is. is it a slight rattle sound coming from the engine when its running lean? or am i way off? can someone explain it in a little more detail? thanks
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I believe your right there Helty.. well, that's what i've heard from my experience with my other mustang.. It pinged pretty bad when it wasnt under acceleration. I asked a mechanic shop what it was and they said it was pinging, nothin would make it go away either.. sounded like somebody had put a small metal ball in my oil pan or something.. it was teh suck
 

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“Pinging” is descriptive, slang terminology used for the act of “pre-ignition”. It comes on as a result of a lean type condition brought on by excessive heat, excessive timing, compression, or a low octane source.
 

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There was a thread a couple of weeks ago about pinging and many of us just started to get pinging with fuel used after Hurricane Katrina. I only have 25K miles on the 2000 and had never experienced pinging running 87 prior to the "fuel shortage" surrounding Katrina. We suspected that gas was costing over a dollar more per gallon, but may have been slightly diluted, which would be inline with the low octane rational.
 
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I had the same type of pinging with my '99 on 87 octane, but never really worried about it. I finally changed my spark plugs and I think that was a major cause because the electrodes were worn and the gaps were much larger than they should be. Not much pinging after that. I run 93 all of the time now since my timing is advanced, but I could probably get away with 89.

Anyways...if spark plug gaps are fine then just run some seafoam and 93 octane for a little while to clean it out. Not sure about the 93 causing more carbon buildup...I'd think it would help clean your carbon buildup if anything. I have no problems with 93...other than the price.
 
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I have the opposite problem. I have 80K miles on my 2000 gt and it is running extremely rich. I changed the o2 sensors, plugs, fuel filter, seafoamed, cleaned MAF and made no difference.

I just bought a stock MAF sensor off ebay for $30 to see if it helps. Maybe you can also try changing the MAF sensor?
 
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