What's with all the retarded engine swaps lately? Are people that disgusted by the Ford power plants we were endowed with that we really need to start stepping over to Brand X for an engine?
An engine is an engine....
Awesome....I'll be waiting for your Honda V-TEC N22JZZ$!RL23UN DOHC engine swap thread in the future then.
Awesome....I'll be waiting for your Honda V-TEC N22JZZ$!RL23UN DOHC engine swap thread in the future then.
How do ya go from american muscle being swapped around to foreign weed wacker/angry bee in a coffee can crap?
That makes a lot of sense Brian!I feel sorry for you man, i didnt think the idea of sticking with the Big 3 was that complicated
Hey...."an engine is an engine", right? Your own words Nate my friend.
...and don't feel sorry for me. I'm more than happy with the engine that my Ford vehicle(s) come with. If I feel the need to add power, I'll add a blower....oh wait...I did that.
If I feel I need a larger engine, I'll stick with one of the many, many proven Ford power plants available. There's no need to shop outside the blue oval for one. There are plenty fine Ford examples to choose from, none of which would require near the custom work, parts and as a byproduct cost to make work/fit in comparison to any "Brand X" mill swap.
Now....:Zip2:
Brian you know good and well how i feel about the engine swaps from our other thread right? So to only take my "an engine is an engine" comment and ignore the rest that you already know is just plain stupid
What does you adding a blower have to do with anything?
Staying inside of your blue oval can bring a ton custom work, parts, costs, etc depending on your starting chassis. This hobby isnt always about getting blowers. Or spending the fewest amount of $ per HP gained. Or staying brand loyal.
I prefer a lot of stuff like you, but i try not to limit too much.
Carry on.:Word:
Custom swaps for the sake of being different are dandy, but don't expect everyone to like it. I, like many other members here am a brand loyalist and enjoy sticking with Ford specific parts and applications. Besides, we have both seen it proven time and time again that there was no real advantage to doing a swap like this other than fulfilling some desire to be "original". Power, performance, weight and drivability can easily be made equal between all of the big 3 North American manufacturer engine offerings, so there's no real advantage to jumping ship to a Brand-X powerplant for those reasons.
After all is said and done, the cost is still higher, custom work is still needed and end results still vary when swapping in a foreign power/drivetrain.
Now....for you to ignore those facts, would be "just plain stupid"!
Your really missing the point and there is so much wrong with that statement its rediculous, if i built a 6.0 LS motor, with a set of LS3 heads, cam and a carb'd intake, it would be capable of mid 10's on motor, without breathing hard. You would not be able to do this for the same price as a windsor, and the LS is gonna be more reliable. I'm not doing it just because ive already sunk a bunch of money into a 302 based setup, but you cant argue it isnt cheaper, cause it is, the LS stuff dosent even require any real custom fab work, the headers, k-member, etc are all the same price as blue oval stuff and either way your buying the parts
anyone on here have a 440 chrysler swapped into there 5.0? how hard is it? what did you do for motor mounts and headers? thanks.
What point did I miss exactly? A 351W based stroker with decent aluminum heads and intake will make every bit the power (if not more) than an 6.0L LS3 engine will at the same, or even less cost. Not only does it keep the Ford blood running blue through and through, but it needs little more than a set of engine mounts, 351W specific headers and an oil pan for the swap?
No K-member, GM specific ignition and wiring harness, custom fuel system, exhaust, transmission and additional drivetrain components, radiator, etc, etc, etc and other nickel and dime stuff necessary. And that's assuming of course you're deleting the stock A/C system and Hydroboost brake set up...because you'll otherwise have to address the new plumbing for those items with the LSX swap as well.
Go ahead....make us a list of the needed parts for the LSX swap versus a 351W swap and see which is easier or more cost effective....I'll wait.
If your building a car worth its weight in pimp juice, then your going to replace all that stuff anyways, who making over 500 hp dosent have a custom fuel system(which you dont need for an LS swap BTW, you can use most of the stock lines), exhaust, aluminum radiator, the list goes on.
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