a few 440 big block conversion ?'s

Gearbanger 101 said:

Look dude, if you're going to try to compare points, at least be accurate about it. They say ignorance is bliss.....but lay off the bliss just a little bit.

A 6.0l LQ4 or LQ9 anywhere from 500-1500 dollars!?!? Maybe well used with 100K+ on the clock, but brand new (I mean....we are still comparing new, or at the very least remanufactured parts to one and other when pitting the two against one and other, are we not?) you're looking at $3,200-$3,400 minimum for a long block assembly of the engine (unless you know of any place that sells them in short block configuration for less?), plus another $900-$1,200 for the heads and valve train components, $800-1,000 for Carb and Intake package, $300-$600 for the cam, $600-$800 for complete ignition system and wiring components, $600-$1200 for headers and mid pipe. Tack on anywhere from $500-$1,000 for misc gaskets, bolts, hoses, lines wiring, sensors, fluids, etc, etc and other supporting parts needed before its even running and you're well over your predicted price range.....and that's without considering the cost of the transmission, flex plate, flywheel, clutch assembly, mounts, radiator, or any bracketry, or accessories (alternator, power steering pump, water pump, A/C) or Mustang specific K-Member thrown into the mix.

$3,500 max....don't make me laugh.

Oh and BTW...you're dreaming in Technicolor if you think a L92 head swapped LQ4/LQ9 short block with carb and intake is going to come anywhere close to 550hp. I'm not sure what "magazine" stats you were reading, but unless you're willing to dig further into the engine and don’t mind gravitating more towards the radical side and making compromises to streetability, idle, fuel mileage and pretty much all emissions, you're coming up about 100-150hp shy of that figure.

Count on spending at least 2-3 times your predicted amount for a complete working assembly stocked with new parts, capable of cranking out those kinds of power figures....and that's before you even think about what you're going to do for a drivetrain, or start gathering components needed to upgrade the fuel system, or drop it into a Mustang.

But don't worry...i'm not going to claim any different in cost to build the Ford Engine. A complete from oil pan to carbeurator 351W based stroker long block assembly in the 400ci range is going to cost you about the same amount (in the $8,000-$10,000 range) using all new parts. That's just the nature of the game. It’s not cheap, but it’s certainly no more or less expensive to do it with the Ford than it is the Chevy.

The relief comes when you don't have to worry about what you're going to do for swap parts, or drivetrain components after the engine is complete, since essentially anything that worked for the 302, works for the 351W as well. Sure, you're going to want to upgrade to a tougher transmission than the stock T-5 or AOD that the Mustang was originally saddled with, but it’s not like you're going to back an LSX swapped car with a stock GM specific T-5 or 700R4 and expect it to live long under those power levels either. Upgrades are going to need to be had on both sides.....but the GM swap unfortunately for the sake of your argument is going to require a lot more upgraded components and supporting hardware to make work. That's just the way it is.

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nickp said:

:worthlesa .

not one person actually answered my questions.

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