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StangDreamin'

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There are people out there who likely tired of hearing about my beloved "Rice-Eating Generic Chevy Truck" - well it looks like you guys are in luck. Since the day I drove it new off the lot, my sweet little 1/2 ton Silverado has given me more than it should; whether hauling stuff that should have been towed by a 3500-series, or making fools out of local gangstas in their winged Hon-duhs and Escalades. But now, she's dying. For the last several months, I've been trying to kill some gremlins in the EFI system. Sensors, motors, actuators, injectors, fuel pump, nothing seemed to work; couldn't even get an engine failure code that made any sense. Short of taking the time to pull out the whole mess and go through the harness wire-by-wire; I wasn't getting anywhere. Could still get to work, by "heel-n-toe" at stoplights and riding the clutch when the light turned green. So now the clutch is toast.

When I last had the clutch done (couldn't take the time to do it myself)at 94k miles; we had to turn the flywheel down almost to minimums (and Mrs StangDreamin' still can't figure out a stick shift); so that would need to be replaced. And since the T/O and the master/slave cylinders (hydraulic clutch) never gave me a lick of trouble in 166k miles; they probably ought to be replaced "while I'm in there". So, in addition to whatever money/time the EFI mess will cost me; tack on another day or three and $400+ to fix the clutch in my driveway. All this to keep driving a 15-year-old 1/2 ton V6 pickup with a couple of cylinders down 10-15 lbs; with a finicky A/C, bad paint and upholstery, many dents, dings and gouges. Oh yeah, the synchros for first ans second gear are starting to squawk on cold mornings and the front end is pretty doggone sloppy - oughta rebuild that, too.

So here's the deal. In my front yard sits a one-owner '02 F150 Lariat 4x4wearing Dealer's License Plates. "Just take it out and have one of your mechanic buddies look it over and bring it back tomorrow night"
5.4 liter OHC V8, four-speed automatic; new skins all around, original full-size spare still has tags and paint marks on it. Power and automatic everything, Line-X spray in bedliner, Class IV hitch and power/light kit for the horse trailer, even leather interior (prolly freeze my a$$ off when I sit down in it tomorrow AM).
My question is: Does this thing stand a snowball's chance in Death Valley of being as reliable for as long as my Chebbie has been for 14-1/2 of the last 15 years??? From experience, I know the 5.4 will likely pull our horse trailer up hills much better than the anemic two-valve 4.6 that tries to pull around my work truck (2000 F-150). And the tranny is supposedly much more bomb-proof than the original 4EOD's were. Lots of B/W 1392 transfer cases fly Ford trucks around Glamis and the sand dunes; it should do okay just keeping me moving around in any mountain mud. And, I've got the dealership's service records on it (same dealer).
But how reliable is it really gonna be? I figure that, with the national scope and performance mindedness of our crew; at least a few of you has had some time in a new Ford pickup; let me know, before I possibly make a $20k mistake sometime early this week.

EDIT: P.S. Yes, I crawled all around underneath, a little mud-spray but no leaks other than a suspicious stain on one rear shock. Put it in a little blow-sand out at a friend's house today; the electric transfer case and vacuum front differential actuator did their jobs, I threw some small rooster tails from all four tires. According to the tag under the hood; the recall work on the cruise control harness was performed when it was traded in.

Thanks!
 

65up2d8

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My friend's dad had a '98 or '99 F250 with a 5.4 that was provided by his employer. He installs walk-in freezers for a living and travels all over the country. When his employer recently replaced the truck, it had over 300,000 miles on it and did not use a drop of oil between changes. Now, granted, those were road miles, but I'd say that's pretty impressive.
By the way, the same buddy has a '97 F150 with a 4.6 that has 318,000 miles on it and still doesn't use a drop of oil. He still drives it all along the eastern seaboard and has total confidence in it. I do believe, however, a big reason for that is that he used Mobil 1 from the get go. I wholeheartedly endorse synthetic motor oil, if you couldn't tell.
 

65stanger

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When's the funeral?
 

NoKitten

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Look at it this way, Dad. between Mrs. Dreamin', yourself, and 1/2NK you've got all three brands covered.

~Critter
 
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bnickel

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doesn't really apply to the truck you're looking at but my dad had an 05 ranger that he drives to all of the stores on his route, which covers all of west texas, some of central texas, western oklahoma and eastern new mexico he gave the ranger to my little brother when bought his new f-150, the ranger had 375,000 miles on it then and it's got close to 400,000 on it now. my brother just started having problems with it last month and brought it over for me to look at, it still had the original plugs and wires!!!!!! run's much better now and has never leaked a drop of oil and has never had synthetic oil put in it. Dad's "new" 03 f-150 v-6 now has about 165,000 miles on it and dad's never had a problem with it either.

also not applicable to the truck you're but my 93 cherokee has almost 200,000 on it and other than general maintenance, an ac compressor, a starter and a new steering column (don't ask) it's never really given me any me any problems. it does have a slight oil leak but that's my fault and i've just been too lazy to fix it, only uses a quart between changes.

so basically the key to making one last is just basic maintenance and when you do have to replace something replace it with a quality part.

i have a friiend that has a shop, his shop truck is an 03 f-150 4x4 supercrew with a 5.4 and a bad ass turbo system, it runs high elevens in the 1/4 withe stock gearing and makes about 600-650 hp, he has had the truck since new and hasn't had a problem yet, that too me is most impressive
 

65up2d8

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bnickel said:
i have a friiend that has a shop, his shop truck is an 03 f-150 4x4 supercrew with a 5.4 and a bad ass turbo system, it runs high elevens in the 1/4 withe stock gearing and makes about 600-650 hp, he has had the truck since new and hasn't had a problem yet, that too me is most impressive
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No offense, bnickel, but I find it harder to see the relevance in this example than I did the others you mentioned. How many miles does he have on the truck? I understand you're saying the engine has been bulletproof thus far with that much boost, but IMO that doesn't necessarily equate to high mileage and longevity, especially if your bud's truck has very low mileage and he isn't into the boost that hard frequently.
I also saw you pointed out that your dad's truck had not used synthetic oil. Are you a non-believer in the advantages of synthetic oil or were you simply saying that engine compiled that many miles without the benefit of synthetic oil? I'm just curious as I have always found you to be quite knowledgeable on this forum, and I normally don't question what you post at this point, but I will be forced to respectfully disagree if your point is there is no advantage to synthetic oils. I have seen some real world advantages and will be glad to elaborate on those advantages, if needed.
Overall, however, we are in total agreement, I think. IMHO, if STD (that never quite loses it's humor, does it?) and, more importantly, the guy that owned the truck before him take and/or took care of the truck, I'll put it up against any make of vehicle, whether its a Chevy or Toyota for that matter. I guess the only thing I'm confused by is that you seem to be a big Toyota pickup fan at times, even though you just told us of a 400,00 mile Ranger. What gives there?
 

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65up2d8 said:
I guess the only thing I'm confused by is that you seem to be a big Toyota pickup fan at times, even though you just told us of a 400,00 mile Ranger. What gives there?
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"There is no accounting for taste" No one brand of pickup is better than the others, mainly becuase of manufacturing error rates, previous owners, and occasional design flaws. However, my personal taste runs from Fords down to American Trucks, then Fullsize import Trucks. I'll never really drive a Taco or a Datsun (Nissan Frontier) although the 05 Tacos were a bit more roomy than previous incarnations. BTW: I have worked on Fords (mine mostly) and Toyotas. I have found that I like fords for ease of repair and SIZE (I feel like a Bell Pepper's stuffing in a Taco).

~Critter
 
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bnickel

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65up2d8 said:
No offense, bnickel, but I find it harder to see the relevance in this example than I did the others you mentioned. How many miles does he have on the truck? I understand you're saying the engine has been bulletproof thus far with that much boost, but IMO that doesn't necessarily equate to high mileage and longevity, especially if your bud's truck has very low mileage and he isn't into the boost that hard frequently.
I also saw you pointed out that your dad's truck had not used synthetic oil. Are you a non-believer in the advantages of synthetic oil or were you simply saying that engine compiled that many miles without the benefit of synthetic oil? I'm just curious as I have always found you to be quite knowledgeable on this forum, and I normally don't question what you post at this point, but I will be forced to respectfully disagree if your point is there is no advantage to synthetic oils. I have seen some real world advantages and will be glad to elaborate on those advantages, if needed.
Overall, however, we are in total agreement, I think. IMHO, if STD (that never quite loses it's humor, does it?) and, more importantly, the guy that owned the truck before him take and/or took care of the truck, I'll put it up against any make of vehicle, whether its a Chevy or Toyota for that matter. I guess the only thing I'm confused by is that you seem to be a big Toyota pickup fan at times, even though you just told us of a 400,00 mile Ranger. What gives there?
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sorry forgot to mention the mileage on the turbo truck, he has just a little over 100,00 miles on it, nowhere near the amount of miles as the others but he's pretty hard on his toys, i've know him since high school when he had a hot rodded nissan 200sx that he drove off a small cliff backwards. trust me when i say i have seen him light up all 4 tires from a 30 punch and almost come to a stop smoking them so hard. i haven't ridden with him since we were in high school, he scares the crap outta me.

as for my dad's trucks not using synthetic oil, i was exactly trying to show how well one of these trucks can EVEN if you DON'T use synthetic. i use synthetic in the stang (valvoline full synthetic 20w50). as for the jeep i can't really afford to spend that kind of money on it right now so it has to make due with plain old castrol 20w50 which i've always had good luck with.

the first motor i built for the stang used castrol 20w50 from day one and i drove it for 100,000 miles, when i pulled it down for a full rebuild there was no sign of sludge and the bearings still looked pretty good. i decided to rebuild it because it had valve problems, a leaky rear main and oil pan and it had a very audblie knocking sound above 3 grand, it wasn't bad driving down the road but doing burnouts or free revving it was clear that something was wrong, turned out be cracked piston skirts on 5 of 8 pistons and one was quite large, it had made it all the way to the pin boss.

you metioned me liking toyota trucks but i feel i must clarify something here, i like only the 84-88 (i think that was the last year of that bodystyle) especially the fuel injected ones which started in late 86 i believe. they are great little commuter trucks and good daily drivers and they get/got much better mileage and had more power than the equivalent rangers of those years. i would very much like to have a 93 ranger splash with extended cab and the v6. with gas prices the way they have been lateley i would probably have to pick the yota over the ranger though. there are very vehicles i would ever pick over any ford product and they are the little toyota pickup over an equivalent ranger and a jeep cherokee over most explorers, excluding the newest bodystyle explorer. otherwise i pretty much bleed ford blue.
 

65up2d8

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Understood.
 

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1997 4X4 Longbox XLT 4.6 with AOD. At 238,000 km and periodic oil changes it still has yet to require drive train repair. Driven all year, non garage kept and used for working, hunting, camping and the occasional off road adventure (has been airborne coming out of a bog) and search and rescue. Has a new pitman arm waiting to go in and requires new lower ball joints - this is common.

 

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StangDreamin'

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The Deed is Done

Well, it's a good thing nobody had any negative opinions; 'cause it's all academic now. Spent last night cleaning out my radio gear and the accumulation of 15 years of my life out of the Silverado; and turned her in at the dealership this evening. The '02 F150 Lariat has taken her place in my driveway. It's a very nice truck; but I still don't feel like it's mine (do you think I can use that excuse when the first payment is due Jan 15???). I mean, I actually like it, but it feels like a rental! Just not yet getting that comforting feeling like I'm with my old friend.

Was given the option of getting new licenseplate or transferring the old one off Belle (yeah, that was the Chebbie's name); decided to keep the old plate. Maybe some of Belle's spirit will "rub off" on the new truck.

BTW krash: The new rig looks a lot like yours - except of course it doesn't have any ice hanging off the bumper. Maybe in Flagstaff next month. Also, the new truck is a bit darker shade (sorta like the "Bullitt" Highland Green), with silver below the rubber parking lot bumpers down the side. Probably very close mechanically; although it has the 5.4L engine; which will help in the trailering duties. Sometimes I think the 4.6 in my work F150 doesn't have the guts that The Generic Chevy Truck's 4.3L V6 had; so I wasn't going to get one in a truck that I was going to use the way I do!
 

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So when is the baptism? Whaddya gonna call her? Inquiring Fuzzy Blue minds want to know!
 

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65stanger said:
So when is the baptism? Whaddya gonna call her? Inquiring Fuzzy Blue minds want to know!
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I have no clue. I still haven't figured out if it's a "her" or a "him". Like I said elsewhere; I actually like the truck; it just feels like I'm renting it... guess I need to take it for a long drive, pull around the horse trailer or something. I really haven't given it a chance yet.

Yesterday at 3AM; I woke up and realized that I've owned some sort of vehicle or another for 26 years. The first three (Gran Torino, F100, one-ton Chevy) I had for cumulatively eleven years. Had the Silverado for 15 years. That makes it kind of hard to believe it's not out in the driveway waiting for me.
 

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You may want to become a member at the F-150 site I linked below. I became a member recently and it already paid off. There are a lot of topic specific sub-forums so looking up information is a breeze.



http://www.f150online.com/forums/index.php?
 

StangDreamin'

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Thanks, krash; I'll look that up tonight. I'm at a customer's house right now; have to give them their computer back!
 
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I love the tires you got on the stang!
 

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I love the tires you got on the stang!
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Those tractor tread bias-plies got me through the whole winter last year without getting stuck once! I thought about cropping that out of the picture, but the truth is we are a two car family no matter what the weather dictates and since I don't have a proper garage I might as well drive it as opposed to buying another car to take up driveway space.

Here's a shot I took when shoveling it out to get to work after a dump of snow the night before.


 

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Hehehe, is that a plow on front?? I wouldn't mind a set of those tires actually, lol. We just had a light snow last week, and the roads were garbage in my stang. I'm somewhat the same as you. No garage to park it in, and seeing as I'm a highschool student and it's my daily driver, I drive it in all conditions, lol.
 
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