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BanginStang97GT

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How much is the m90 kit?
 
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stimmler said:
KB does have a kit for the 96-98 Gt it was developed in 96 or 97. They stopped production for a while but are now rereleasing it with the 99 and up kit.
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Go to the KB website. It's "coming soon" and has been for several years now. It's not available.
 
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BanginStang97GT said:
How much is the m90 kit?
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9psi intercooled is $4200
 
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tjm73

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RedGTvert said:
That's a Race Only Kit.
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No, it's a street kit. CARB/OBD-II complient.
 
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2002BLGT

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this might be a long stretch but I wonder if you could use the PI adapter plates on the NPI heads and bolt the KB blower on , of course you couldnt use the stock good but I wonder what what would perform like . in theory if you get longer intake bolts it should work , right guys ????
 
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Ebay had a M90S ported allen supercharger that just went for $1550.00. It only had 5000 miles on it. The mustang it came off was in my area S.F. bay area and was running 318 rwhp and 363 rwtq. That will get you into the low 13's high 12's no problem. It makes alot of torque on the low end so it's good for the street. According to allen engine your safer and will get much more life out of your engine running at 6psi. With a couple of minor mods added to this supercharger you could get 330 rwhp no problem. the 6psi kit goes for $3850.00 and the 9psi goes for around $4000.00 and they come with intercoolers. Allen engine will install for $500.00 for all you california guys. These kits are pretty reliable from the research I've done and I think a pretty good way to go if your not looking to go crazy with 400 rwhp. I'm personally not interested in making near 400 rwhp because if your basically a street car your never going to use all that power let alone trying to stick all the rwhp and rwtq to the wheels. If the timing was right I would have bid on this unit but right now I'm looking to help my son buy a car. At some point I'm thinking this will be a good way to go for me. At over 300 rwhp you would still be able to smoke most cars on the road...
 
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I agree with many of them The roots type blower is going by way of the dinosuar, is an old ineffiecient design. You will make more power with a Twin Screw or centrifugal.
 

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tjm73 said:
No, it's a street kit. CARB/OBD-II complient.
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He's talking about the 2.2l whipple race kit.

It's considered a race kit because it has no provisions for EGR.
 

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Joel's98GT said:
I agree with many of them The roots type blower is going by way of the dinosuar, is an old ineffiecient design. You will make more power with a Twin Screw or centrifugal.
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That's not true. They will be used on OEM vehicles for years to come. It's a proven technology that has been around for a good long while.

Remember not everyone is looking for 500 + RWHP.
 

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tjm when are you gonna get your stuff running? I would have gone insane and shot myself by now if i had soaked that much money into a motor and not got it running.

The whipple supercharger is a 2.3L not 2.2L and there is really no reason to go with the $3850 roots style kit over a kenne bell for 6-9 psi range. The non-intercooled KB runs for 3799 and i really coudln't tell you why people would even consider a less efficient roots style that typically loses steam at high rpms.

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kirkyg said:
tjm when are you gonna get your stuff running? I would have gone insane and shot myself by now if i had soaked that much money into a motor and not got it running.

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My "new" GT isn't even on the road yet. Do you have me confused with someone else?
 

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kirkyg said:
tjm when are you gonna get your stuff running? I would have gone insane and shot myself by now if i had soaked that much money into a motor and not got it running.

The whipple supercharger is a 2.3L not 2.2L and there is really no reason to go with the $3850 roots style kit over a kenne bell for 6-9 psi range. The non-intercooled KB runs for 3799 and i really coudln't tell you why people would even consider a less efficient roots style that typically loses steam at high rpms.

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Yeah I meant 2.3L.

Well I just bought a house so the car is officially on the back burner for a while. My new fuel pump will be here at the end of this week and I'll be converting to a return style system. The intake is pretty much done. The inlet is pretty much done, I'm trying to get a custom TB made for it. Then it's off to tuning.

It's going to be a while though.
 
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kirkyg said:
tjm when are you gonna get your stuff running? I would have gone insane and shot myself by now if i had soaked that much money into a motor and not got it running.

The whipple supercharger is a 2.3L not 2.2L and there is really no reason to go with the $3850 roots style kit over a kenne bell for 6-9 psi range. The non-intercooled KB runs for 3799 and i really coudln't tell you why people would even consider a less efficient roots style that typically loses steam at high rpms.

kirkyg
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You have a point, KB, cobra killer kits, etc. do acheive more power, but not everyone is looking to run at high rpm's all the time. How often are you able to rev to 5000 rpm's on the street? If your doing alot of track time then I see your point but most stang drivers are basically street cars. So with the roots your already into boost at 2000 rpm's as opposed to having to get to 3000-5000 rpm's to get to peak power. These kits are also proven to be reliable which is definitely a factor if you want to lessen your risk of running at high boost levels that will eventually cause problems. Anyway, it's all personal preference, just my .02 cents...
 
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TJM01 said:
That's not true. They will be used on OEM vehicles for years to come. It's a proven technology that has been around for a good long while.

Remember not everyone is looking for 500 + RWHP.
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I agree, no one can doubt it's dependability, and OEM will continue to ues them, but the aftermarket is continually shying away from them and it's the first first major thing people started to change in the cobra.
 

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but for the money its stupid to get something with less power if they are the same price is it not?

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oh

the allen makes a lot more power for a dayly driver then any centricle.. because of all the usable lowend torqe..
 

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but that doesn't solve the question of why someone would not choose a KB for the same price over the allen?

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