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Alternative to fixing camber without caster/camber plates?

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kpack5982

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So I was doing my normal late night/early morning web searches and found the following and was wondering if this is a way to fix the alignment issues with the front wheels without having caster/camber plates? looks to be a heck of a deal and have never seen anything like this before. Let me know what you think or if this is even a viable thing

Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...=8035529700&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
 

HISSIN50

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This is something I had once considered, but I cant remember why I didnt use it (I think I searched on the corner carvers forum to get opinions).

Anyhow, that is a bump off the second page for ya.
 
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I beleive the camber is adj. The upper strut mount I think is slotted. If you losten the 3 nuts the camber will move. If it has never been done there shold be a rivit in the upper plate that you will have to drill out first. I have done many alingments on many cars but I haven been out of it for a few years. But like I said im pretty sure that the upper strut mount is sloted under the mount itsself. Hope this helps.
 

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The issue is that when the car is lowered, the negative camber can get to be a bit much with the stock camber plate (I wont call it a caster plate since you cant get enough even when at stock ride height). But it can get pricey to deal with these issues............
 
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dyb003 said:
I beleive the camber is adj. The upper strut mount I think is slotted. If you losten the 3 nuts the camber will move. If it has never been done there shold be a rivit in the upper plate that you will have to drill out first. I have done many alingments on many cars but I haven been out of it for a few years. But like I said im pretty sure that the upper strut mount is sloted under the mount itsself. Hope this helps.
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HISSIN50 said:
The issue is that when the car is lowered, the negative camber can get to be a bit much with the stock camber plate (I wont call it a caster plate since you cant get enough even when at stock ride height). But it can get pricey to deal with these issues............
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Both statements would be correct!!:SNSign:
 

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I lowered my 93 Cobra and I had it aligned and cam bolts put on the struts. Heck of a lot cheaper than billit CC plates. I think it was $45 per side. $181 to align after drop. Check out the pics in by sig web link.
 

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so a good ideaon the part? yes/no?
 

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Anyone???
 
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I dont see how you had cam bolts put in the lower struts. The holes in the lower strut are NOT ovel and do NOT have a place for the exsentric to move the lower strut. If they charged you for cam bolt then im my opinion you got riped off. You can ovel the lower bolt hole but dont need a cam bolt to adj it. You should be able to get at least 10 + or - out of the upper camber adj under the strut mount plate.
 

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It just seems alot easier to spend $170 for Maximum Motorsports C/C Plates and then getting an alignment knowing your not going to wear through expensive tires. Cutting corners always ends up costing more in the long run!
 

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dyb003 said:
I dont see how you had cam bolts put in the lower struts. The holes in the lower strut are NOT ovel and do NOT have a place for the exsentric to move the lower strut. If they charged you for cam bolt then im my opinion you got riped off. You can ovel the lower bolt hole but dont need a cam bolt to adj it. You should be able to get at least 10 + or - out of the upper camber adj under the strut mount plate.
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For some cars there just isn't enough movement in the stock camber plate to adjust it properly. You do not need to elongate the holes in the lower strut. This is a variation of a very old trick for setting the camber on a strut car. Back in the day before the cammed bolts they used to just elongate the holes in the lower strut and then make adjustments and tighten the bolts down. You would then run some screws in on one or both sides of the bolt head to lock the strut in place.
 

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Yes you can get bolts with more/longer ecentric, my mechanic installed them when i lowered my car two inches but after two sets tires worn out on the inner lip, and $1500 later i guess those $170 cc plates are a pretty good deal
 

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bryce93lx said:
Yes you can get bolts with more/longer ecentric, my mechanic installed them when i lowered my car two inches but after two sets tires worn out on the inner lip, and $1500 later i guess those $170 cc plates are a pretty good deal
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Kinda what I was saying, as its better to do it right the first time, then you dont have to do it a second time and spend more money in the long run!
 
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I would just look around for a set of caster/camber plates. New or used. Those bolts will work, but they are not the best idea. Now you are throwing out the alignment between the spindle and strut. I dont know if this will matter much, but it could. You will be much happier with the plates in the long run.
 
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