Am I the only one who?

stangonline · Sep 22, 2006

I've seen a few new, billet wheels that are designed to look like the classic ones. There are also a few cast ones. www.shelbywheels.com I think has some.

Foose did some for a Mopar..I think.. that resembled the classic ones. That was kind of cool.

I think a modern 17inch version based on the GT wheels in Pakrats sig would be cool. I've always liked those wheels.

nugget68 · Sep 22, 2006

69gmachine said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm 45 and while I think 15" rims can look OK, it's just so much easier to get better performance from a 17" rim (not to mention fitting big disc brakes), I wouldn't consider going back in time. For the combination of price and functionality, I'm quite happy with the look of my 17" late model Mach 1 rims. Are there better looking ones? Maybe, but form follows function. The deep dish helps reduce the scrub radius. There is also diminishing returns going to an 18" rim, and IMO, they do look out of place.

I didn't build my car to win a people's choice award. I also don't take public opinion polls when I design parts. My suspension will hold it's own against anybody's out there. I designed my coil over front suspension/disc brakes/rack & pinion to take advantage of 17" wheels and modern tires. I'll pit my suspension design against anybody's: TCP, Unique Performance, Mustang's Plus... anyones. I'm not saying it will spank them, but it will hold it's own. A coil over design is so nicely balanced, you can have your cake and eat it too. It's got a full interior, and except for the wheels and seats, looks very stock, but it handles incredibly flat. I don't think the early design with all the tricks you can throw at it (roller spring perch, shelby drop, 600lb springs) are even a fair comparison. Now that's just my opinion, and I'm not saying that to offend anyone. If someone is close enough, and we can have a good natured contest, I would be willing to do a road test comparison... on your car!

Got any pics of your stang...sounds pretty badd...

57fairlane · Sep 22, 2006

I hate to say it but mustangs don't hold bigger wheels as well as first-gen camaros. Mustangs come off as hot wheels cars with big wheels where as camaros look kind of tacky without at 17s or 18s.

Very VERY few early model mustangs could pull off anything bigger than a 16 (and very few should).

keith2172 · Sep 22, 2006

Am I the only one who would rather have the painted black, $30 a piece D-hole rims and spend the money saved on a killer set of tires? I guess I just like the no-show all-go look too much

stangonline · Sep 22, 2006

The thing is - if someone is spending money on suspension and wants a good handling street machine - they are serioulsy shooting themselves in the foot by using a 15inch rim. OTOH - some people go with 18s and up for looks and not function and is usually looks bad.

LMan · Sep 22, 2006

CochinoFilipino said:
If you want 17's, you're not going to beat the price you can get on a set of Take-offs.

Truth spoken.

iskwezm · Sep 22, 2006

CochinoFilipino said:
If you want 17's, you're not going to beat the price you can get on a set of Take-offs. You can pick these up with brand new tires for a fair price.

Now that Saleen is offering the 17" wheels and tires for $299.00 see how many people hate them

I might just get some for the winter weather to piss everybody off

1320stang · Sep 22, 2006

"Hi, my name is 1320stang, I'm 39 and I'm a disliker of the late model offset wheels on classic cars...."

I'm not so against the size, although I don't care for over 17" on the early cars and over 18" after those. It's the flat look of the late model wheels, we used to call them FWD offset or FWD wheels.

Now that's being said for a majority of the classic rides, if you built something like SN65 based on a '65 coupe and a modern Trans-Am car, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with the massive flairs and 20x10 and 22x14 rims with the 20 aspect tires. I also think it's partly due to most younger guys, that's about all they've seen on new cars, it's easier for them to accept.

Like Nugget68's car above? looks very clean and I realize that's a photoshopped pic, but those wheels and tires, I don't care for. If they were the billet deeper dish wheels by whomever was making those, that's fine (Wheel Vintiques?) and the tires are too low profile, but those are my tastes

D.Hearne · Sep 22, 2006

keith2172 said:
Am I the only one who would rather have the painted black, $30 a piece D-hole rims and spend the money saved on a killer set of tires? I guess I just like the no-show all-go look too much

You're not alone, I like the black wheel-raised white letter tire look myself.

nugget68 · Sep 22, 2006

1320stang said:
"Hi, my name is 1320stang, I'm 39 and I'm a disliker of the late model offset wheels on classic cars...."

I'm not so against the size, although I don't care for over 17" on the early cars and over 18" after those. It's the flat look of the late model wheels, we used to call them FWD offset or FWD wheels.

Now that's being said for a majority of the classic rides, if you built something like SN65 based on a '65 coupe and a modern Trans-Am car, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with the massive flairs and 20x10 and 22x14 rims with the 20 aspect tires. I also think it's partly due to most younger guys, that's about all they've seen on new cars, it's easier for them to accept.

Like Nugget68's car above? looks very clean and I realize that's a photoshopped pic, but those wheels and tires, I don't care for. If they were the billet deeper dish wheels by whomever was making those, that's fine (Wheel Vintiques?) and the tires are too low profile, but those are my tastes

those are actually take offs from a 03 mach 1...

1320stang · Sep 22, 2006

Scroll down to page 49.

http://www.wheelvintiques.com/pdfs/40-52_billet.pdf

67topless · Sep 22, 2006

I will eventually go to something bigger... but I like a little more tire.

ultrastang · Sep 23, 2006

1320stang said:
"Hi, my name is 1320stang, I'm 39 and I'm a disliker of the late model offset wheels on classic cars...."

I'm not so against the size, although I don't care for over 17" on the early cars and over 18" after those. It's the flat look of the late model wheels, we used to call them FWD offset or FWD wheels.

Now that's being said for a majority of the classic rides, if you built something like SN65 based on a '65 coupe and a modern Trans-Am car, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with the massive flairs and 20x10 and 22x14 rims with the 20 aspect tires. I also think it's partly due to most younger guys, that's about all they've seen on new cars, it's easier for them to accept.

Like Nugget68's car above? looks very clean and I realize that's a photoshopped pic, but those wheels and tires, I don't care for. If they were the billet deeper dish wheels by whomever was making those, that's fine (Wheel Vintiques?) and the tires are too low profile, but those are my tastes

I too, am 39 --although the last day of this month, my biological odometer will click over another tick.

I've had various wheels/tires on my '68 in the 24 years of my ownership of it. My intent with it is restomod it. Running 14" or 15" wheels is out of the question with the Cobra brakes I'm putting on it (with adapter brackets of my own design).

I like the look of the modern wheels with the centers being more outboard, because it helps the look even more towards "filling the wheel wells."

Cars are kinda like women. There's big 'uns and little 'uns. Blondes, brunettes and redheads. Not everyone likes or agrees on all the variants, but there's something within all these that's right for everyone.

If you like stock, you like stock. If you like something else, then that's fine too. If everyone had their vehicles setup identically the same, it wouldn't be a very interesting hobby to be in.

www.ultrastang.com

Pakrat · Sep 23, 2006

Just for some reference pics to my post, here is a pic of Darkbuddha's 70 with the 03 Mach's. I think it's easier to pull this off on a bigger Mustang like a 69/70.

Also attached is a picture of a 69' vert I found online years ago that first gave me the idea to go this route with my car.

But once I saw the 17" magnums on 69Boss429's car my choice suddenly became clear.

69gmachine · Sep 23, 2006

nugget68 said:
Got any pics of your stang...sounds pretty badd...

I'm not very good with making links to my pics, but here are a few...

This is the front suspension.

This is the engine bay... sans the export brace which was installed before taking it out on the street. The cheap chrome breather was only there to keep dirt out of the engine while I was getting everything working. I have a shaker set-up that normally sits up top.

Here it is waiting to get out on the track. I just can't believe anyone would prefer 15" wheels with giant donut tires to my ultra-cool late model mach 1 rims.

I don't have a good interior picture yet, but the seats are from Summit Racing. They're the faux leather ones for just under $200 each in all their adds. I had them re-upholtered with my maroon Mach 1 comfort weave inserts, and then had the side bolsters dyed maroon to match the rest of the interior. Came out looking really nice... well to me anyway. I'm sure there will be lots of people who think late model functional seats look out of place too.

D.Hearne · Sep 23, 2006

After seeing these pics of older Stangs with newer rims, I know now what it is that makes em look weird. They look like they've got those cheap, auto parts store hub caps on them. Not intended to be a slam, but just my observation. Something about them,just looks fake.

Route666 · Sep 23, 2006

D.Hearne said:
After seeing these pics of older Stangs with newer rims, I know now what it is that makes em look weird. They look like they've got those cheap, auto parts store hub caps on them. Not intended to be a slam, but just my observation. Something about them,just looks fake.

That's the feeling I get too. There's no depth - no dish. What's even worse IMO on big wheels - 17 and up, if there is no space in the wheel. If the wheel is very open like torque thrust IIs, they look nice in 17, (especially with some dish) but if the wheel is almost solid, it just makes it look too big. Another problem I find with the modern wheels is that to fit right on an older car they have to be spaced away from the brakes more, which hides them and makes them look small.

I've got no problem with others putting what they like on their car though. It'd be a pretty boring world if everyone liked the same stuff.

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