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darkhorse1

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I have the chance to get a 92 351w out of a 250 van. Will everything hook right up, or will I need the wiring off of the van? Also will bolt on the stock t-5 tranny in my 92 lx? Thanks.
 

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This falls under 5.0 tech.
Thread moved.
 

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Use the wiring and sensors from your current car, including the ecu...

Your current t5 will bolt up to the 351w block...

there's a link to my site in my sig below. I have a 351w swap page there...

good luck,
jason
 

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will I be able to just pull out the 351 and put it right into the 92 without changing anything? I'm just trying to get it going before it gets really cold. Thanks.
 

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The intake/heads/cam on the stock 351w's are a joke...

Swapping these parts out will improve power dramatically.


While it isn't a difficult swap, you do need to plan things out a little better...
What oil pan do you have?
What intake do you have?
What cam will go in it?
...
http://www.freewebs.com/vristang/fox351wswapfaq.htm

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Well I'm short on cash, and I don't have a garage or anywhere to store the engine so I was going to put it in the car until this summer. I was going to keep everything stock for now.
 

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Is the 351w going into the 95?

Here is what I see you needing...
Cowl hood (in order to run the van intake manifold. you could swap intakes, but that will cost ~$500+)
Oil pan - you need a double sump pan for the Fox, I don't think the vans had a double sump???
Headers - Getting shorties to swap directly in place of the stockers you have now will be easiest... I think MAC still has the cheapest set out there???
CAMSHAFT - This is where things get tricky... The 92 block is not a roller block. You will need the $$$ link bar lifters, at ~$450.
Or you can run a reduced base circle cam, but they are prone to causing other valvetrain issues... this is a bad option...
The camshaft out of the van will not likely be compatible with your ecu (check the firing order of the van against your 95GT).

The swap should be doable for ~1k to $1,500...

jason
 

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The 351 is going to go in the 92 LX. I can pick from either a 91 or 92 engine, would the 91 be a better choice?
 

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91 vs 92 - No difference in the blocks...
 

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will the firing order be different in the 92LX? Where is a good place to get a oil pan from? Will the one off of the 302 fit? I already have a set of aftermarket headers, they were already on the 302.
 

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302 headers probably won't fit the 351w block

Summit has a Ford pan for the 351w - the 302 pan will not work

The firing order may be different, you will need to research that

Again,
Read through the link I posted above... It should answer a lot of these questions for you...

Feel free to ask with specific questions after that,
jason
 

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everywhere i've looked you have to get new headers, summit has some for like $130. shorties. i opted for bbk long tube ceramic coated swap headers, so i payed a bit more than that, but now i cant lower my car it sure sounds great though!
 

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Thanks for your help so far. I'm going to pick the motor up tomm., and order the oil pan and headers hopefully today.
 

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302 headers will work u just have to dent them in some so they dont hit the steering rack...
 

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87Mustang351 said:
302 headers will work u just have to dent them in some so they dont hit the steering rack...
Click to expand...
You've personally done this?

What headers did you use?
What midpipe did you use?


jason
 

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What year are the roller motors? The place that I'm getting the engine from now has a 97and a 94 out of a F250 pickup. Then there is another 94-95 conversion van with a 5.8 also. The original engine that I was going to now has a few parts missing so i need a different one. Also will I have to change fly-wheels?Thanks
 

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Any of the 3 blocks you've listed should be roller blocks...

The flywheel from the 351w should be used... or you can rebalance the stocker from your 5.0...
 

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my motors a 74 block with 70 heads, and there bbk shortie headers and i did not dent them myself it came like that, but i have read before that is what you do if you have a set of 302 headers and cannot afford the swap headers!
 

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Are the plugs for the wiring the same?
 

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darkhorse1 said:
Are the plugs for the wiring the same?
Click to expand...
What plugs?
Compared to what?
 
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