another what would you pay question

xoxbxfx · Dec 29, 2004

Well, what would you pay for the following stang?

1696 Mach 1
4.6L modular
T45
9" w/ 373's and limited slip
Mustang II front suspension
99+ Dark Charcoal Grey interior (dash, seats, console...everything)
11" GT brakes
PBR Calipers
ABS...yes ABS brakes
9" rear disc
18" Chrome Bullitts
Great Candy apple red paint

Im talkin a 1 of a kind show car. I saw some guy on teh board is building a 67 vert GT500 clone and wanting $95-100k for his car. The listed above woudl be my dream car personally and I was wondering what it would be worth... I have always wanted the feel of a new car with an old body mustang.

65fastback2+2 · Dec 29, 2004

xoxbxfx said:
I have always wanted the feel of a new car with an old body mustang.

A) thats why they made the 05, just for people like you

B) Id say 35-40 g's or so

64andahalf · Dec 30, 2004

that sounds like ALOT of custom work. from what i understand it is NOT easy to get a modular engine into a vintage stang. probaly 50K maybe? maybe lower.

Route666 · Dec 30, 2004

Do you want to know how much it would cost to build or to buy? It would probably cost more to build.

With the MII suspension it wouldn't be hard to put in the modular motor, you just need a front sump pan, pickup, oil filter relocation kit, and engine mounts. DVS Restorations can supply those parts.

Starting with a good body, bought cheaply because that's all it has going for it I'd say $35k minimum to have built.

xoxbxfx · Dec 30, 2004

Route666 said:
Do you want to know how much it would cost to build or to buy? It would probably cost more to build.

With the MII suspension it wouldn't be hard to put in the modular motor, you just need a front sump pan, pickup, oil filter relocation kit, and engine mounts. DVS Restorations can supply those parts.

Starting with a good body, bought cheaply because that's all it has going for it I'd say $35k minimum to have built.

Im looking at both options and trying to find if its worth trying to find someone to build or to try and tackle it myself. If it cost me $20k to do it myself and its only worth that, there isnt a motivatoin to do it. If I spent that much on it and it was worth more than its worth it for me to do it. No sense on spend that much time and money if its not worth anything later on.

Fostang · Dec 30, 2004

Depends on how well the job i performed.

I wouldn't pay anything for a hack job.

Route666 · Dec 30, 2004

You want to build YOUR dream car, a rather unique item. The thing is there really isn't a market for those sort of cars, they're only really built for the builder.

Having said that, if you did all the work yourself except the final bodywork, I think you could do it for less than 30k, and good 69 sportsroofs sell for 30+k, so you can ask more for a custom one.

That's my opinion anyway.

reenmachine · Dec 30, 2004

Route666 said:
With the MII suspension it wouldn't be hard to put in the modular motor, you just need a front sump pan

You don't need a front sump pan. At least with the Heidt's setup, the engine would end up waaay too high or waaay too far forward.

gp001 · Dec 30, 2004

xoxbxfx said:
Well, what would you pay for the following stang?

1696 Mach 1
4.6L modular
T45
9" w/ 373's and limited slip
Mustang II front suspension
99+ Dark Charcoal Grey interior (dash, seats, console...everything)
11" GT brakes
PBR Calipers
ABS...yes ABS brakes
9" rear disc
18" Chrome Bullitts
Great Candy apple red paint

Im talkin a 1 of a kind show car. I saw some guy on teh board is building a 67 vert GT500 clone and wanting $95-100k for his car. The listed above woudl be my dream car personally and I was wondering what it would be worth... I have always wanted the feel of a new car with an old body mustang.

A 1696 Mach has to be rare

Max Power · Dec 30, 2004

xoxbxfx said:
Im looking at both options and trying to find if its worth trying to find someone to build or to try and tackle it myself. If it cost me $20k to do it myself and its only worth that, there isnt a motivatoin to do it. If I spent that much on it and it was worth more than its worth it for me to do it. No sense on spend that much time and money if its not worth anything later on.

If you are looking to build a radically modified car for profit, you are barking up the wrong tree.

Route666 · Dec 30, 2004

reenmachine said:
You don't need a front sump pan. At least with the Heidt's setup, the engine would end up waaay too high or waaay too far forward.

Yeh that was pretty silly of me I said with the MII setup it'd be easy and thought of the pan you'd need if you didn't have a MII setup. DOH! You are correct, it'd be pretty easy... once the MII conversion is done.

Hack · Dec 30, 2004

What would I pay for a car like that? If it was built very well, and was done to fit my taste, I'd probably pay $5,000. I might even go to 6 or 7 thousand. If it was a poor job, I wouldn't touch it.

Having said that, I'm sure the right builder with the right reputation could find someone to pay a lot more than that for something like this - especially if they had an arrangement before the work began. A customizer would also want the money up front, generally.

A custom car isn't worth much IMO. Certainly it wouldn't be worth as much as either a restored car or the sum of the parts.

I agree completely with Max Power - that isn't a way to make money. It sounds like a fun car to build though.

xoxbxfx · Dec 30, 2004

Hack said:
What would I pay for a car like that? If it was built very well, and was done to fit my taste, I'd probably pay $5,000. I might even go to 6 or 7 thousand. If it was a poor job, I wouldn't touch it.

Having said that, I'm sure the right builder with the right reputation could find someone to pay a lot more than that for something like this - especially if they had an arrangement before the work began. A customizer would also want the money up front, generally.

A custom car isn't worth much IMO. Certainly it wouldn't be worth as much as either a restored car or the sum of the parts.

I agree completely with Max Power - that isn't a way to make money. It sounds like a fun car to build though.

Wow.. The engine alone would cost $5k... Custom cars are worth a lot these days. Chip Foose, Boyd Coddington and many other guys are around for a reason. They sell cars that cost $100-200k because they are one off custom cars. Id be happy if my car was worth $30k when I was done building it... Im no professional but I think it would be cool. I think if a car was built like this it would ahve to be worth something... a lot more than an everyday stock or restomod. Who knows... If I can scrounge up the pennies to build the car I think Im going to try and do it. If its not worth anything to anyone else it will be worth something to me.

Fostang · Dec 30, 2004

xoxbxfx said:
Wow.. The engine alone would cost $5k... Custom cars are worth a lot these days. Chip Foose, Boyd Coddington and many other guys are around for a reason. They sell cars that cost $100-200k because they are one off custom cars. Id be happy if my car was worth $30k when I was done building it... Im no professional but I think it would be cool. I think if a car was built like this it would ahve to be worth something... a lot more than an everyday stock or restomod. Who knows... If I can scrounge up the pennies to build the car I think Im going to try and do it. If its not worth anything to anyone else it will be worth something to me.

Not to insult your work or anything but comparing yourself to any of those guys/teams.....well I dunno about that. I for sure am not even close to being as skilled as any of them. This is why their cars are sold for 100k+

gingerbreadman · Dec 30, 2004

gp001 said:
A 1696 Mach has to be rare

yes it was rare but a clone is easily made from the readily available 1697 model wich had a few extra options, a 3rd horse, a removeable plow and it was the first year to come with a canopy over the wagon for the misses....

-gbm-

Hack · Dec 31, 2004

xoxbxfx said:
Wow.. The engine alone would cost $5k... Custom cars are worth a lot these days. Chip Foose, Boyd Coddington and many other guys are around for a reason. They sell cars that cost $100-200k because they are one off custom cars. Id be happy if my car was worth $30k when I was done building it... Im no professional but I think it would be cool. I think if a car was built like this it would ahve to be worth something... a lot more than an everyday stock or restomod. Who knows... If I can scrounge up the pennies to build the car I think Im going to try and do it. If its not worth anything to anyone else it will be worth something to me.

I agree with what Fostang said - I alluded to it in my post. You may have built the best car in the world, but your reputation has a lot to do with what someone will pay. If I don't know you, it becomes risky IMO for me to spend much on your car.

For instance, the engine is not worth $5k to me if I have no idea what condition it's in. The engine (and every other part of the car) may be all beat to ()#*#@, but not apparent because it's been cleverly hidden.

I'm not going to tell you there's absolutely no way to get good money for a custom vehicle; it's just going to be difficult. Coming out ahead and making money on it will be even tougher.

reenmachine · Dec 31, 2004

Well, I'm putting these theories to the test -- I'll let you know how it turns out!

Hack · Dec 31, 2004

reenmachine said:
Well, I'm putting these theories to the test -- I'll let you know how it turns out!

I wish you the best of luck! I have nothing but respect and admiration for the people who own small businesses. People like you have made America great.

Just the fact that you have a business rather than building/selling as a private individual should help.

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