Anybody done a TKO swap recently?

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What's the full budget for swapping in a TKO600? A quick run of the numbers suggests it'll clear $2000. And that makes a T56 look more like a viable option. Anybody completed a swap recently and have a total figure?

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:OT: HairyCanary are you still getting that 05 mustang? I don't see your order on your signature and you current one is not for sale anymore. Why is that?

 

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No, I decided the 2005 Mustang GT is not for me. Lots of reasons, none of them good. The biggest single reason is that I'm a cheap bastard -- the more I make, the less I want to spend on my car. At least on car payments, that is. So instead I will waste silly amounts of money attempting to make my 95 go faster than 13.4 in the quarter mile. I've only spent $6000 so far, I figure another $6000 and I should be in the 12's!

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O.k., thanks! It's nice that you're staying here.

 

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BA1 Ford 5.0/5.8 440 lb-ft 2.97 Wide Ratio(a) $1999



BA2 Ford/Viper 5.0/5.8 550 lb-ft 2.66 Close Ratio(b) $2499


From d&d's site. Thats just a trans alone, then you need bellhousing, clutch and whatever else little odds & ends. Those gear ratio's suck IMO. I'd take a tko 500 anyday over the 6spd. Your looking at an extra $1,000 for a 6spd over a tko. Since your a cheap bastard, I think you have your answer

Why isnt your car as fast as it should be?

 

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Dark Horse Performance has a T56 swap kit for $2249: "TREMEC T56, 31 SPLINE SLIP-YOKE, SHIFTER, BELLHOUSING AND BLOCKPLATE POLYURETHANE CONVERSION MOUNT AND THROWOUT FORK."

I'd just need a new clutch disc. I'd think the T56 would be a smoother tranny for daily driving, from what I've heard about the TKO's . The T56 is only rated at 440 ft-lb, but I know Cobras making twice that who haven't broken it yet.

If I knew why my car wasn't as fast as it should be, it would be as fast as it should be . Despite the fact that I'm 150% sure my cam is degreed properly, I think I'm going to retard it a couple of degrees and try to move the torque curve up a little, maybe I can find the horsepower that way. And I'm getting rid of the Edelbrock 94/95 elbow in favor of a Fox style setup, maybe that'll help a tiny bit.

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I wouldnt change anything with the cam until the cars problem is fixed. I had a problem with my car back when I had the full TFS combo. The car was only hitting 275rwhp and like 315tq. One day at a buddys shop while changing my trac loc clutches, my buddy asked me which was I had the fuel filter in. I told him and he was like 'uh, why that way'? I got a new one and pt it in and gained about 5mph at the track and went back to the dyno and made 304hp/339tq My a/f was fine even with the backwards fuel filter. Just an idea, luckily my problem cost me $10 to fix, but w/o him saying that to me, I would never known.

 

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That's really interesting about the fuel filter. I would have thought that if it were causing a problem, you'd have seen trouble with the A/F ratio. Very interesting. Maybe this weekend I'll verify which way the filter is installed, just to be sure -- can't hurt .

 

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Dave, I've been working on a thread on all the things needed and encountered with a TKO install. I've just been too damn busy to finish it... its going to be a LONG thread.

 

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i'm also interested my tranny is making me nervous it can't hold my power much longer and i think i might like having 6 gears

 

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HairyCanary said:

I'd think the T56 would be a smoother tranny for daily driving, from what I've heard about the TKO's . Dave

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I can't speculate on the smoother part, but a 6spd would make 4.56s a very streetable option Depending on whether or not the rest of your setup would work well with them.

 

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I am curious as well. My T-5 doesn't have many miles on it but after the new combo sees some action I doubt the tranny will hold up. For long away. I think the concept of a 6-speed is cool but I just can't see me springing all that. I am looking at the G-Force but have heard some horror stories that are scaring me a little bit. It would be bad to be able to run 4.56 and still be able to book it down the interstate.

 

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I can't speculate on the smoother part, but a 6spd would make 4.56s a very streetable option Depending on whether or not the rest of your setup would work well with them.

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Uh, NO. The 6th gear ratio in the tranny he's thinking about buying is .62. Your telling me thats a HUGE jump from the .68 thats in tremecs and t5's? The 6th gear in the 550 ft/lb one is .50 but that ones $400 more.

Hairy- I thought so too that it was weird how the a/f wasn't lean with it backwards. Doesnt hurt to check or even change it for a $10. Let me know how it turns out!

Killer- Is your tko swap post gonna be sn95 specific? I might be buying a low mileage used tko from a guy on here. Do you think the stock tremec alum bell needs to be indexed? Or if I save it for the new motor i'm planning i'll have to index it probably.

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i just did the TKO-600 swap and with all the parts i ended up spending right around $2200. thats for the tranny, bellhousing, new clutch kit,rear slip yolk, driveshaft spacer, offset mount and i bought a new clutch cable and quadrant while i was at it

 

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Grn92LX said:

Uh, NO. The 6th gear ratio in the tranny he's thinking about buying is .62. Your telling me thats a HUGE jump from the .68 thats in tremecs and t5's? The 6th gear in the 550 ft/lb one is .50 but that ones $400 more. Mike

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Sorry, I didn't specify .50 nor did I notice the specifics of the model he was looking at. Just to set the record straight, the .50 6th gear is available in most any of the torque ratings: 330, 350, 375, 385 (.50 .54 &.56), 390, 415, 450 & 550. These are Tremec gear sets. I don't know what kind of gear sets they're putting in the aftermarket T56s. I'm not familiar with 6spd interchanges, but I'm guessing that all of the model #s share the same case. You're right, .68 to .62 only drops from 3122 to 2846 with 4.56s @ 80mph. But the .50 drops it to 2295. So, assuming a .50 6th gear, I'll stick with my original thoughts.

HairyCanary,
You can look HERE for all the different gear sets available in a factory T56. I don't know how much these are, but when I originally posted, I was thinking about the Richmond 6spd. My T56 knowledge has improved significantly today. And HERE's Richmond's RPM calculator for a 6spd. I just noticed that the Richmond 6spd bolts up to the Lakewood 15202 which also happens to be the Tremec 3550/TKO bolt pattern

Good Luck
Jared.