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anyone install their own headliner?

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68 & 00 GT

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any tips pointers, or how to's so I can get this thing nice and tight ?

that upholstry glue takes so long to stick !
 
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I did mine and I unfortunately didnt document it as well as I normally do.

It not that bad, and the biggest thing is to have the front and rear window out of the car. This will make it much easier.

You can use the old window lace trim in small strips to hold it in place, (I used a TON of binder clips) but you should be using the spray adhesive. If you do this right, it will stick quickly and not be a problem.

The biggest thing is to let it get good and warm (not a problem with placing it in the sun in Houston) and then start. Just get all the hangers started... and work, pull, fit, slowly... working towards the front.

Any help?
 

tx65coupe

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The headliner is held in with rods and behind the front and rear window gaskets. To do it right you really need to do it with the windows out. I have heard some people say that they did it with the windows in and used something small to push the headliner behind the gaskets.

We did ours ourself. It was kind of a pain in the butt. It wasn't too bad though. Just don't try to rush it or it will result in a poor installation and you will hate it.
 

tx65coupe

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Looks like we posted at the same time. I agree about making sure it is warm. This is true of most upholstery work and carpet etc.
 
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2+2GT

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If your glue doesn't stick instantly you're using the wrong glue.

And I agree, the only way to do this right is with the glass out.

69-73 had a different setup, so the windshield ONLY can stay in.
 

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See previous thread: http://forums.stangnet.com/506880-question-replacing-headliner.html
 
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See also

http://forums.stangnet.com/722595-67-coupe-headliner-installation.html

It has pictures. I'm pretty sure I recall some other threads with good pictures and write-ups.
 
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thanks guys

the car is just back from paint so the windshields are out.

what glue should I be using ? I think I have some spray upholstry adhesive ?
 

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The factory manual states to install it by stuffing/shoving it under he weather sttrip. What gives?
I've been thinking about doing my headliner but I dread removing and installing the back window. It seems it would be pretty heavy.
 
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The factory manual states to install it by stuffing/shoving it under he weather sttrip.
Really? Which year? What page number? I'm gonna rip that one out.

I've been thinking about doing my headliner but I dread removing and installing the back window. It seems it would be pretty heavy.
It's a pain alone, but do-able. It's a snap with a helper.
 
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Now that Edster mentions it, I remembered that I used the tuck method on my 68 coupe because I was following the manual rather than a deliberate attempt to cut corners. It's right there on pp. 18.11-12 of the remnants of my 67 or 68 manual.

I used popsicle sticks to tuck without tearing and some cement that came in a tube. Probably got the cement from Dallas Mustang, where I got the headliner.

The problem is that it didn't stick for long. In July in Texas, the trim cement melted, and the liner came untucked. After a few more popsicles, I got it back in and it stayed for the next couple of months until the car met its unfortunate demise, but I have a hard time believing that it would have stayed put come the following summer.

If one were going to try the tuck method, I would recommend being a bit more conservative in trimming the liner than the half-inch to tuck under recommended in the shop manual. That is, I'd leave more like three quarters. Still, ideally you'd remove the windshields since the surface area being glued plus the added friction of the wrap around would keep it from going anywhere.
 

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I glued and tucked mine in the back and it has stayed there for almost 12 years now. Maybe the '69 rear window seal is deeper?

+1 on the binder clips. That helped a lot. I brushed on contact cement, I think.
 
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Do yourself a favor and invite an OCD friend to help you. The results will be much better...

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The professional quality brush-on cement for about $6 per can is the way to go. I got mine from one of the mail order places. Brush it on the back of the headliner edges sparingly, and then the area of the window channel you want to stick. Wait a minute and stick them together. That will hold tight after some time with old windlace or binder clips keeping them together. Just do a couple feet at a time working from the middle out. The spray can glue isn't the right tool for this task.
 

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66 Restomod said:
The professional quality brush-on cement for about $6 per can is the way to go. I got mine from one of the mail order places. Brush it on the back of the headliner edges sparingly, and then the area of the window channel you want to stick. Wait a minute and stick them together. That will hold tight after some time with old windlace or binder clips keeping them together. Just do a couple feet at a time working from the middle out. The spray can glue isn't the right tool for this task.
Click to expand...

I used the brush-on glue as well. Get extra, use plenty. I installed my headliner and kept things in place with cut strips of the old windlace and alot of bulldog clips as mentioned above - and thought I used enough glue. When I finally got around to reinstalling the glass, some areas were not sticking very well and thus it wrinkled a little. Perhaps poor surface prep on my part (make sure it's clean and able to adhere) was the cause.

I layed it in the sun for about 15 mins in San Antonio TX and had my mom help me stretch and bulldop clip from the center-out and used cut windlace when I ran out of clips... but I would say go buy alot of those clips.
 

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+1 on the binder clips with brush-on contact cement.

My Dad and I did it in my '67 fastback with the "tuck" method about 9 years ago. Been fine in the Texas summers ever since!

That said, I'm changing the color of the interior and think I'm probably going to pay someone to do it this time!
 
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