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Jon

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tehnick said:
I regret not getting a GT, but in the long run I save on insurance for right now. In the future I will probably get one, or just build this car up a bit for a fun DD. I don't really crave a ton of power and would be stoked with around 300-350HP to the wheels. Not sure which avenue I will go to add more power. Then again, I am not sure if any shops have any experience doing build ups on a 3.8L V6 as well as tuning them. I know a guy on the east coast that does e-tunes and know his stuff when it comes to the V6 Mustangs, but Florida is a bit far away if something goes wrong and I can't rely on playing e-mail tag while my car sits in my parking spot at my apartment complex trying to figure it out.

Would be nice to build a turbo kit, because I can score a pre-made kit for $3,500 but then I still need to invest in fuel upgrades and other stuff to complete it which will drive the cost up considerably. Ugh, I have no money right now either trying to keep my bills paid
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Did a vortech'd v6 a while back and it was decent. I'd say if you are going to go forced get a turbo. The supercharged v6 still felt somewhat weak sauce. Fuel system would set you back about $500 for pump, meter, and injectors.
 
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AllFordPerf

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loud 95 said:
Doesn't Ray's current engine make 700 horses on motor? You guys sprayed to hit the 8.88, right? I'm not trying to pick things apart, just trying to remember.
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Rays motor made 714 std hp at the wheels through the powerglide on the 175 shot and in the 575 range all motor.
 

gospeedgo

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#143
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Jon said:
Busted!
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Who was busted?

As far as the dyno sheet goes, Bill has it- and I am quite sure he doesnt have a scanner. But it was out for everyone to see at the show. I am sure Rrev still has it (unless you guys deleted OURS too ) and they are more than welcome to post it up! I know how they love to get involved in our battles

Tim, if your out there post it up!
 

loud 95

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#144
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Jon said:
We're not using the metric system for ratings here big guy.
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That's what your wife said when you tried telling her how long you are.
 

loud 95

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AllFordPerf said:
Rays motor made 714 std hp at the wheels through the powerglide on the 175 shot and in the 575 range all motor.
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Cool. So it was more like 900hp (crank) that went 8.88's in Ray's car.
 

gospeedgo

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#146
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Jon said:
Fuel system would set you back about $500 for pump, meter, and injectors.
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Allen would probably be willing to make you a deal on some Cobra fuel system soon

JK! dont get your panties in a bunch...I know I know
 
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AllFordPerf

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loud 95 said:
Cool. So it was more like 900hp (crank) that went 8.88's in Ray's car.
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On the engine dyno the motor made 858 at the crank and the same tune was in the 575 range at the wheels. The glide and converter soak up a lot. For comparison wallys 514 made 852 on the engine dyno and 630 to the wheels with a C-4 and a tighter converter.
 

loud 95

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AllFordPerf said:
On the engine dyno the motor made 858 at the crank and the same tune was in the 575 range at the wheels. The glide and converter soak up a lot. For comparison wallys 514 made 852 on the engine dyno and 630 to the wheels with a C-4 and a tighter converter.
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Thanks. I'm definitely getting rusty on my conversion factors.
 
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AllFordPerf

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loud 95 said:
Thanks. I'm definitely getting rusty on my conversion factors.
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Dyno numbers for autos are deceptive. I made 430 at the wheels with an auto and ran 10.20 s where as in a similar car 420 with a stick we ran 11.0. We did a stick to auto conversion last year. The car made 550 rwhp with a stick and 420 with an auto but picked up from 11.1 to 10.60. That was a supercharged car.
 

TurboSnake95

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#150
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AllFordPerf said:
Dyno numbers for autos are deceptive.
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Is there a way to truly correct for this, or is it just pretty much a shot in the dark?
 
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AllFordPerf

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TurboSnake95 said:
Is there a way to truly correct for this, or is it just pretty much a shot in the dark?
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It's a shot in the dark. You can run a lock up converter like most late model over drive trans have. Then it's more like a stick. Bottom line with any dyno number is " it's just a number " if it goes up you are making good changes if it is going down stop what you are doing and go the opposite direction.
 

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gospeedgo said:
Allen would probably be willing to make you a deal on some Cobra fuel system soon
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Why is Bill going back to a returnless system because you guys made his car slower? I will pass since I still have some fuel left with those skinny stock lines that wont support anything above 600. Bill should of bought wheels instead but I know you guys have other plans for him.
 

gospeedgo

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ASD said:
Bill should of bought wheels instead but I know you guys have other plans for him.
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trust me, if we could wrap that thing in slicks we would. But I guess for now, the under car neon will have to do. You wouldnt believe how hard it was to find aluminum colored tubes!
 

Jon

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#154
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gospeedgo said:
Who was busted?

As far as the dyno sheet goes, Bill has it- and I am quite sure he doesnt have a scanner. But it was out for everyone to see at the show. I am sure Rrev still has it (unless you guys deleted OURS too ) and they are more than welcome to post it up! I know how they love to get involved in our battles

Tim, if your out there post it up!
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What ever Ray's made it pulled like a bandit! 200mph on the dyno was pretty sweet that day. Pray for no rain when we all wake up 'cause I want to see that thing with the fogger spraying full tilt!!!!!
Hopefully see you guys in the morning!
 

saleenster

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Jon said:
What ever Ray's made it pulled like a bandit! 200mph on the dyno was pretty sweet that day. Pray for no rain when we all wake up 'cause I want to see that thing with the fogger spraying full tilt!!!!!
Hopefully see you guys in the morning!
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Ray-Day
 

gospeedgo

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#156
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Jon said:
Pray for no rain when we all wake up 'cause I want to see that thing with the fogger spraying full tilt!!!!!
Hopefully see you guys in the morning!
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Oh hell yeah! I cant sleep
 

Jon

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I think I'm on my way down.....
 

gospeedgo

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Heading out in 10 minutes...forcast looks good except showers at 10:00- before and after are just "cloudy"
 

Jon

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See you in a bit
 
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Tim Ballz

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Here is Bills dyno graph ....
SAE - 702
STD - 720

 
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