Are 12s possible with just bolt ons?

90lxvert13 said:

I checked the sticky and it looks like the ones that have gone 12s either use n2o or some kind of bower. I know the fox cars can achieve this with suspension, exhaust, gears and a few other odds and ends, but can the new edge cars with a similar set up?

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The fastest I ran with just bolt-ons list below was 13.3@105mph w/ a 1.9 60ft, I think I did some suspension and slicks I would have seen the 12's.

-Cold Air
-BBK plenum
-Accufabe 75mm TB
-Bassani mid-length headers
-Off road H-pipe
-Aluminum Drive Shaft and Flywheel
-Steeda Under Drive pulleys
-93 oct SCT tune
-Stock suspension, engine, trans and rear end (3.27 gears)
-245/45/17 Nitto street tires.

I have seen it, but with full bolt ons and driver mod.

Yes it is possible. As said before- a good driver, full bolt-ons w/ the right suspension set up and drag radials should make it into the 12's.

It is going to take a number of trips down the strip. Look on youtube and you will find a number of full bolt on stangs in the 12's.

My best NA pass has been a 13.16 @ 104. I'm hoping to get it into the 12's when I get an electric water pump and some new big/littles.

90lxvert13 said:

How much more do the new edge cars weigh than a fox hatch?

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I raced my vert all full weight and it came in @ 3540lbs.

I have a 13.1 run. I don't know what was more frustrating, running the 13.1 or not getting to 13.1.

2 10th's to get into the 12's makes you a mad man. I think I was happier at 13.3 lol

But, I think with a plenum and underdrives, ill be there.

Went 13.19 @ 104mph in full street trim, chrome wheels, and full interior. 264rwhp. Many guys have gone 12's with bolt ons. Here is Bill Putnam's official list of NA cars.

1999 - 2004 2V Naturally Aspirated (PI Heads) 1/4 ET:
1 . Fastest NA 2V - 10.69 @ 127.00 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD - 302ci Mod )
2 . nine - 10.82 @ 126.96 ( YEAR?,TRANS? - 286CI 2V - PURE STREET )
3 . KenB - 10.83 @ 124.41 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
4 . Biff - 11.05 @ 120.93 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - F/S, PI HEADS, 287ci, BFGs )
5 . Steve Gifford - 11.42 @ 118.00 ( GT 5 SPD )
6 . Steve Drier (Houston Performance) - 11.45 @ 115.00 ( 1995 GT AUTO - SVO HEADS/INTAKE, STROKED )
7 . starkie - 11.52 @ 116.76 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
8 . Yellow02GTauto - 11.67 @ 112.17 ( 2002 GT AUTO - HEADS/CAMS )
9 . madmike - 11.68 @ 115.66 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
10 . stroked_4.6 - 11.80 @ 119.06 ( 2000 GT - STROKED, TFS )
11 . Kurt02GT - 11.90 @ 113.29 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
12 . Gt - 11.92 @ 112.33 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
13 . Ian Mullane - 11.94 @ 111.66 ( 1996 GTS 5 SPD - PI ENG )
14 . Bill Putnam - 11.97 @ 113.20 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
15 . 96SOHC - 11.98 @ 110.52 ( 1996 GT VERT AUTO - HS - VT CAMS )
16 . John Edwards - 11.99 @ 112.10 ( 1999 GT AUTO )
17 . Randy Stinchcomb - 11.99 @ 113.65 ( 1996 GT 5 SPD - SVO HEADS/INTAKE )
18 . TSS Racing - 12.02 @ 111.04 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
19 . AutomaticWeapon - 12.03 @ 112.69 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
20 . rrg9946 - 12.04 @ 111.00 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD )
21 . ALLMTR2V - 12.05 @ 111.27 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
22 . code3GT - 12.09 @ 114.00 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
23 . Racer_X - 12.15 @ 112.90 ( 1996 GT 5 SPD - HS )
24 . Doug Johnson (Fast2v) - 12.17 @ 112.02 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
25 . Jeff99GT - 12.18 @ 109.30 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD )
26 . John Vanover - 12.23 @ 108.99 ( 1999 GT AUTO )
27 . Kurgan - 12.24 @ 110.03 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
28 . Lazer Red 99 GT - 12.25 @ 110.31 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD - VT cams )
29 . Shane Williams - 12.25 @ 110.00 ( 1999 GT AUTO )
30 . Gary Youngblood - 12.26 @ 108.00 ( 2001 GT AUTO )
31 . ponynx - 12.30 @ 110.26 ( 2003 GT 5 SPD )
32 . TruBlu01 - 12.39 @ 108.89 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
33 . silver2k2gt - 12.47 @ 107.68 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
34 . Ed Galanda - 12.47 @ 105.31 ( 2004 GT 5 SPD )
35 . mogs01gt - 12.50 @ 110.00 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD, PORTED HEADS, CAMS )
36 . RavenGT - 12.50 @ 106.80 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD - SOLD )
37 . Ruckus46gt - 12.52 @ 107.81 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
38 . wht00gt - 12.59 @ 107.04 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
39 . playground60 - 12.60 @ 110.14 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
40 . 96SOHC - 12.60 @ 106.64 ( 1996 GT VERT AUTO - HS )
41 . Real-slo98 - 12.61 @ 108.96 ( 1998 GT AUTO - HS )
42 . auto02 - 12.61 @ 107.00 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
43 . Extreme281 - 12.62 @ 108.52 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
44 . EVIL GT - 12.65 @ 108.59 ( 2000 GT AUTO )
45 . gt27mustang - 12.68 @ 107.00 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD )
46 . GMsucks - 12.68 @ 106.64 ( 2003 GT )
47 . 98GtConvt - 12.70 @ 110.40 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD VERT - HS )
48 . crawlinGT - 12.71 @ 106.90 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
49 . mineralgraygt - 12.70 @ 108.00 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
50 . BlueStangGT - 12.71 @ 109.00 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
51 . Madi98GT - 12.72 @ 107.13 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
52 . AR1Grdpoundr - 12.72 @ 107.34 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
53 . Mustang03 - 12.72 @ 107.76 ( 2003 GT 5 SPD )
54 . JayZ - 12.73 @ 107.39 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )

Full bolt on's, driver mod, and strip all the wieght you can. Get big and littles, and hold on for some hard launches. Don't be mad if your stock rear blows though

Bill also had a list of 5 mods to the 12s, worth looking into.

12's with minimal bolt ons + slicks.

YouTube - N/A Bolton GT: Quest for 12's