are shorty headers worth it?

RysRed96GT · Jun 21, 2004

are they? any places that sell them cheap?

twogts4us · Jun 21, 2004

Most people say No, the are not worth it. Make it worth your time & money and let your mod motor breathe freely with a pair of long tubes. The difference in prices is pretty large, but the difference in power gains is pretty large too...

GoBabyVroommm · Jun 21, 2004

NO!!!!!

HogStang · Jun 22, 2004

For me, (Ohio), I had to go with the BBK Shorty's (Cermaic Coated) due to emissions. On my 03 GT daily driver.

70stangcoupe · Jun 22, 2004

I put Shortys on my 70 Mustang with a 5.0 in it... Biggest waste of money ever.

Huge performance and sound loss over the long tubes that I had previously.

Beau · Jun 22, 2004

if you have to deal with emissions, then yes, but long tube headers are a much better investment.

03redfiregt · Jun 22, 2004

HogStang said:
For me, (Ohio), I had to go with the BBK Shorty's (Cermaic Coated) due to emissions. On my 03 GT daily driver.

I did'nt think the bbks were out yet. How do you like them? I am looking at a set of shorty headers myself as i too have to deal with emisions. I was looking at jba, but not sure yet.

blumi00GT · Jun 22, 2004

What I don't understand is, why the long tubes are not emission legal. The emissions are filtered by the cats in any case. (They are catted mid-pipes for l/t aren't they?).

Blumi

RysRed96GT · Jun 22, 2004

blumi00GT said:
What I don't understand is, why the long tubes are not emission legal. The emissions are filtered by the cats in any case. (They are catted mid-pipes for l/t aren't they?).

Blumi

yes

Ryan02Stang · Jun 22, 2004

blumi00GT said:
What I don't understand is, why the long tubes are not emission legal. The emissions are filtered by the cats in any case. (They are catted mid-pipes for l/t aren't they?).

Blumi

They are legal except in California as long as you have cats. In california you cant touch the midpipe or manifolds.

And NO!!!! Shorties are a complete waste of money!

baller760 · Jun 22, 2004

Oh well, I live in Cali and I'm gonna buy longtubes and a catless prochamber anywayz. Just gonna have to switch em back every 2 years or whatever. Damn that's gonna be a bitch but well worth it.

Ryan02Stang · Jun 22, 2004

baller760 said:
Oh well, I live in Cali and I'm gonna buy longtubes and a catless prochamber anywayz. Just gonna have to switch em back every 2 years or whatever. Damn that's gonna be a bitch but well worth it.

EXACTLY!!!

pony_vert02 · Jun 22, 2004

I'm wishing I'd gotten L/T's when I had the chance...I bought FRPP JetHot Coated Shorty's...I think most people see atleast 15-20 rwhp gain from L/T's..

Shorty's= TEH LOSE

Cali03Boss · Jun 22, 2004

i have JBA shorties, and i got them because of CA emissions. I would get long tubes if i were into drag racing, but my road racing class wont let me get longtubes...i'll get bumped into the class with the totally tricked out z06s and vipers...and i can barely keep up with the stock vipers in my current class.

d98gt · Jun 22, 2004

It'd be like buying a v6 instead of a GT/Cobra

Tylerb59 · Jun 22, 2004

If you're looking to give away your money, I'll glady take it off your hands.

clarkjr · Jun 22, 2004

I did'nt think the bbks were out yet. How do you like them? I am looking at a set of shorty headers myself as i too have to deal with emisions. I was looking at jba, but not sure yet.

The BBK shortys are available now and they are the first shorty design to make any real power on the 4.6.

Beau · Jun 22, 2004

clarkjr said:
The BBK shortys are available now and they are the first shorty design to make any real power on the 4.6.

i've witnessed JBA's make 7-10 rwhp on a N/A car...i call that real power and i've yet to see any other shorty make more

NasaGT · Jun 22, 2004

1990StangLX said:
i've witnessed JBA's make 7-10 rwhp on a N/A car...i call that real power and i've yet to see any other shorty make more

I've seen the same. And I think it was Cobra Killer who showed that JBA shorties produce almost as much power as LTs on an S/C'd application. They will never make as much as LTs, but they are not as bad as everyone suggests.

The FRPP shorties don't make much though - they are a waste IMO.

Beau · Jun 22, 2004

NasaGT said:
I've seen the same. And I think it was Cobra Killer who showed that JBA shorties produce almost as much power as LTs on an S/C'd application. They will never make as much as LTs, but they are not as bad as everyone suggests.

The FRPP shorties don't make much though - they are a waste IMO.

yea I think Cobra Killer did that a little while ago.

I actually saw the gains in person on a dyno, in addition to seeing the ones that have been posted around the net.
It's just a case of people maybe hearing from one person how they make no power or something and then repeating it like it's gospel, or just being idiots and not knowing wtf they are talking about.

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