HogStang said:For me, (Ohio), I had to go with the BBK Shorty's (Cermaic Coated) due to emissions.On my 03 GT daily driver.

yesblumi00GT said:What I don't understand is, why the long tubes are not emission legal. The emissions are filtered by the cats in any case. (They are catted mid-pipes for l/t aren't they?).
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They are legal except in California as long as you have cats. In california you cant touch the midpipe or manifolds.blumi00GT said:What I don't understand is, why the long tubes are not emission legal. The emissions are filtered by the cats in any case. (They are catted mid-pipes for l/t aren't they?).
Blumi
EXACTLY!!!baller760 said:Oh well, I live in Cali and I'm gonna buy longtubes and a catless prochamber anywayz.Just gonna have to switch em back every 2 years or whatever. Damn that's gonna be a bitch but well worth it.
...I bought FRPP JetHot Coated Shorty's...I think most people see atleast 15-20 rwhp gain from L/T's..I did'nt think the bbks were out yet. How do you like them? I am looking at a set of shorty headers myself as i too have to deal with emisions. I was looking at jba, but not sure yet.
i've witnessed JBA's make 7-10 rwhp on a N/A car...i call that real power and i've yet to see any other shorty make moreclarkjr said:The BBK shortys are available now and they are the first shorty design to make any real power on the 4.6.

I've seen the same. And I think it was Cobra Killer who showed that JBA shorties produce almost as much power as LTs on an S/C'd application. They will never make as much as LTs, but they are not as bad as everyone suggests.1990StangLX said:i've witnessed JBA's make 7-10 rwhp on a N/A car...i call that real power and i've yet to see any other shorty make more![]()

yea I think Cobra Killer did that a little while ago.NasaGT said:I've seen the same. And I think it was Cobra Killer who showed that JBA shorties produce almost as much power as LTs on an S/C'd application. They will never make as much as LTs, but they are not as bad as everyone suggests.
The FRPP shorties don't make much though - they are a waste IMO.![]()