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88GT460 · Nov 27, 2005

RADIALKILLER said:
It has eagle steel crank, h-beam eagle rods, flat tops solid roller...make offer

I won't be able to make a reasonable offer honestly since I really will not have all the money at one time. I'm sure its worth $1500 but I'm not savy on engines.

What do you mean by flat tops ? As in the pistons ?
I'm not sure what Solid Roller means also.

I'll ask a buddy tomorrow and see what he says about the setup you have and get back with you.

jasonh_86 · Nov 27, 2005

88GT460 said:
I won't be able to make a reasonable offer honestly since I really will not have all the money at one time. I'm sure its worth $1500 but I'm not savy on engines.

What do you mean by flat tops ? As in the pistons ?
I'm not sure what Solid Roller means also.

I'll ask a buddy tomorrow and see what he says about the setup you have and get back with you.

Who's your buddy?

That motor is worth a lot more than you'd think

cobra_mobile · Nov 27, 2005

wsup fools im new and know nothing thats going on in this site but ima try to figure it out just wanted to give a shout to the homies brian and pod-o-matic wsup fellas

jasonh_86 · Nov 27, 2005

cobra_mobile said:
wsup fools im new and know nothing thats going on in this site but ima try to figure it out just wanted to give a shout to the homies brian and pod-o-matic wsup fellas

Yo, whatup foo!! This is Tripod.. u best recognize!!

cobra_mobile · Nov 27, 2005

waduup pod im on here lookin for some parts

jasonh_86 · Nov 27, 2005

cobra_mobile said:
waduup pod im on here lookin for some parts

Check out the classifieds.. what kind of parts you wantin?? somethin to make that Snake go FAST and kill some CATFISH?

Example:

Camaro

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

jasonh_86 said:
Who's your buddy?

That motor is worth a lot more than you'd think

Its only the block, not the whole motor.. I mean, you can usually get a 351 block for under $500, and get a $1500 stroker kit.

5spd GT · Nov 28, 2005

Solid roller cam uses solid lifters. Flat tops are the pistons (no valve reliefs and usually higher compression).

I believe new 351 stroker blocks with good parts go for 3-4k I believe.

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

5spd GT said:
Solid roller cam uses solid lifters. Flat tops are the pistons (no valve reliefs and usually higher compression).

I believe new 351 stroker blocks with good parts go for 3-4k I believe.

I am locating a used block, I think I may have found one and from what I have heard the block itself is cheap.. stroker kit would obviously be 1500 or more. Not looking to buy a brand new block at all.

jasonh_86 · Nov 28, 2005

5spd GT said:
Solid roller cam uses solid lifters. Flat tops are the pistons (no valve reliefs and usually higher compression).

I believe new 351 stroker blocks with good parts go for 3-4k I believe.

That's more of the price range i'm sure we're talkin about here.. good call David!

Too bad you guys couldnt have been there to hear the real deal.. 438ci..

I'd like to see somebody else around here build a motor that good

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

If I was looking for a new or slightly used block, I would have said that. Like I said, I am going to find a 351 block and may bore it out to a 408, depending on funds. If not then I will just rebuild the 351 and go from there.

5spd GT · Nov 28, 2005

88GT460 said:
If I was looking for a new or slightly used block, I would have said that. Like I said, I am going to find a 351 block and may bore it out to a 408, depending on funds. If not then I will just rebuild the 351 and go from there.

A 408 is a stroker

Bore is just basically "grinding" out the cylinder walls (has to accept a bigger piston) to get a fresh cylinder wall for the rings to seat against.

The "stroke" part of the engine is what will cost you...

It will be a beast

Just a FYI: Most of those "new" blocks (sold by those like DSS, CHP, etc) are remanufactured and blueprinted. They are still used, just conditioned...

Edit: Get some AFR 225's, TFS R or ported Systemax, custom grind cam and you could see 500rwhp

timeless2 · Nov 28, 2005

You guys need to PayPal 5spd GT for his advice and info.

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

5spd GT said:
A 408 is a stroker

Bore is just basically "grinding" out the cylinder walls (has to accept a bigger piston) to get a fresh cylinder wall for the rings to seat against.

The "stroke" part of the engine is what will cost you...

It will be a beast

Just a FYI: Most of those "new" blocks (sold by those like DSS, CHP, etc) are remanufactured and blueprinted. They are still used, just conditioned...

Edit: Get some AFR 225's, TFS R or ported Systemax, custom grind cam and you could see 500rwhp

Yeah, I know what a stroker motor is. I know the blocks you can buy with all the parts are expensive, but even if I keep it a 351, I'm sure I can keep it under 1500 for everything (all the internals except cam) and then go with AFR 185.

5spd GT · Nov 28, 2005

88GT460 said:
Yeah, I know what a stroker motor is. I know the blocks you can buy with all the parts are expensive, but even if I keep it a 351, I'm sure I can keep it under 1500 for everything (all the internals except cam) and then go with AFR 185.

Yep, the rod ratio/length is the most effective part of the stroker. You just said "bore it out to a 408" but that was inaccurate. Boring does very little to cubic inch in most "rebuild cases". Obviously Brian extended the rebuild You got some great goals, stick with it

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

5spd GT said:
Yep, the rod ratio/length is the most effective part of the stroker. You just said "bore it out to a 408" but that was inaccurate. Boring does very little to cubic inch in most "rebuild cases". Obviously Brian extended the rebuild You got some great goals, stick with it

Yeah, I will probably still want a half way decent street car that isn't going to suck down the gas like a 408 would. One of my other buddies had a 351 in his 94 GT with VJ Heads, VJ Intake and cam of course. I never saw it run at the track but I know it was pushing some serious power. I think he only had $3500 into it.

Sorry I wasn't more specific on the bore part.

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

4u2nv said:
You guys need to PayPal 5spd GT for his advice and info.

I will paypal you to take that post and this one out. :haha:

5spd GT · Nov 28, 2005

88GT460 said:
Yeah, I will probably still want a half way decent street car that isn't going to suck down the gas like a 408 would. One of my other buddies had a 351 in his 94 GT with VJ Heads, VJ Intake and cam of course. I never saw it run at the track but I know it was pushing some serious power. I think he only had $3500 into it.

Sorry I wasn't more specific on the bore part.

Was that Sean? He ran 10.8.

I like the paypal post because I paypal'ed 4u2nv money to make that post. I'm getting my money's worth...

timeless2 · Nov 28, 2005

88GT460 said:
I will paypal you to take that post and this one out. :haha:

88GT460 · Nov 28, 2005

5spd GT said:
Was that Sean? He ran 10.8.

I like the paypal post because I paypal'ed 4u2nv money to make that post. I'm getting my money's worth...

Well, Shawn had a 302 build with Edelbrock RPM heads and a holley systemax intake, custom cam.. then he built the 351 with the VJ heads and intake. I know the 302 ran a 10 something but I never heard if he ran the 351 setup or if he even got everything straightened out on it because he was having a lot of problems. I heard it a couple times and it sounded good, but I dont know if anyone ever saw it run.. racing or dragstrip.

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