Arkansas Thread

timeless2 · Dec 2, 2005

jasonh_86 said:
this thread has been going a while.. time to start a new one..

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I agree.

timeless2 · Dec 2, 2005

Helty, get some C springs.

jasonh_86 · Dec 2, 2005

helty said:
ok guys, i slept in and missed class this morning. the only way to clear my conscionce is to buy another mod. what should it be?

anyway, who wants to watch the jermaine taylor / bernard hopkins fight saturday night? i gotta order it today. it costs $50 so i'll have to collect $5-$10 a head. let me know.

Hmmm... a new mod.. i guess some 295/35 BFG DR's would work.. wait, my bad.. that's something I want..

Ummm....... uummmmmmmmmm.... uuuhhhhhhh..... MM or Steeda C/C plates for when you lower that bad boy!

I'll be there to watch the fight :Word:

helty · Dec 2, 2005

4u2nv said:
Helty, get some C springs.

you know, i talked to the head tech at stangsuspension.com and he told me that even the H&R Sports (that i am/was? trying to sell) wont hurt for drag racing purposes as much as the FRPP "C" or Steeda Sport springs, even though the H&R's offer a bit more of a drop.

Here's what he said:

Brandon,

At a certain point, springs will have a negative affect on drag racing
traction, although the H&R sports, should not have be a problem.

There are so many other variables that affect launching, the somewhat
stiffer spring rate of the H&R sports (which are actually softer than
the Ford C's or Steeda sports) will not affect your launches...

A Mustang in particular is more affected by:

A. bad rear end design
B. loose/poorly designed stock rear control arms
C. twisting of the rear end (caused by combination of shocks, control
arms, lack of panhard bar)
D. street tires (will never yield the best launches)

If you want a nice drop, do the H&R sports.... Then improve your
launches in the above ways... Control arms, rear end fixing, tires,
etc.

Sincerely,

Josh Sadowsky
StangSuspension.com
http://www.stangsuspension.com
I'm thinking LongTubes

and jason, that codyss guy is at it again. he's telling me a stock ss would "walk" (i hate when they use that word) a stock GT, and that the two races i witnessed between you and stu, the mustang won because i like mistangs.. ie, he's saying im full of ****.. then they're also saying a blown gt making 375 to the wheels almost got walked by a SS making 330, although the ss injectors can only support around 260. (this was in a video) then he they said "well the ss had an intake and it still almost took the GT" they're so fugging retarded man. the guy who made the vid drives a GTP and apparently said the GT had a brand new motor and wasnt going WOT bc it hasnt been tuned right or broken in yet. so now they're all saying the GT guy is just making excuses cuz he almost lost to a near stock cobalt. you cant get through to them man. they wont accept that a GT, modded or not, can beat a Cobalt SS.

tomustang · Dec 2, 2005

There are so many other variables that affect launching, the somewhat
stiffer spring rate of the H&R sports (which are actually softer than
the Ford C's or Steeda sports) will not affect your launches...

H&R sports have a max of 575 for the front BUT 285 max for the rear, when it comes down to it you need softer spring rates for the rear, BUT guess what? He IS wrong. Steeda Sport springs run a max of 250 at the rear, which means the rear H&R's will be better for a launch. Not the same as "C" spring cause they rin 300 max at the rear.

A Mustang in particular is more affected by:

A. bad rear end design
B. loose/poorly designed stock rear control arms
C. twisting of the rear end (caused by combination of shocks, control
arms, lack of panhard bar)
D. street tires (will never yield the best launches)

A. Rear end design is fine.
B. It's the bushings.
C. Bushings again, Torque Arm/PHB will yeild the best, just adding a PHB won't do much at all
D. I agree with tires.

cobra_scout · Dec 2, 2005

Helty
Do upper and lower control arms with an anti sway. You could even do a Performance K member.

I was going to say bushings, but i figured you had made that one of your first mods.

helty · Dec 2, 2005

tomustang said:
H&R sports have a max of 575 for the front BUT 285 max for the rear, when it comes down to it you need softer spring rates for the rear, BUT guess what? He IS wrong. Steeda Sport springs run a max of 250 at the rear, which means the rear H&R's will be better for a launch. Not the same as "C" spring cause they rin 300 max at the rear.

A. Rear end design is fine.
B. It's the bushings.
C. Bushings again, Torque Arm/PHB will yeild the best, just adding a PHB won't do much at all
D. I agree with tires.

ok, what im wanting is a dd car with a lowered stance that can drag launch. that eliminates the eibach drag launch kit. i already have the H&Rs in a box, never installed. what would you suggest?

i do plan on getting some Pro3i or MM LCAs in a few months if that helps any.

helty · Dec 2, 2005

cobra_scout said:
Helty
Do upper and lower control arms with an anti sway. You could even do a Performance K member.

I was going to say bushings, but i figured you had made that one of your first mods.

mods are in the sig man. i just went to the strip for the first time 3 weeks ago so im just now getting into it. I have a set of DRs sitting in my apartment already. shocks/struts and bushings will be addressed down the road. any suggestions? urethane? polyurethane? i dont know chit about suspension. thanks to both of you for your advice

tomustang · Dec 2, 2005

helty said:
ok, what im wanting is a dd car with a lowered stance that can drag launch. that eliminates the eibach drag launch kit. i already have the H&Rs in a box, never installed. what would you suggest?

i do plan on getting some Pro3i or MM LCAs in a few months if that helps any.

keep the sports

cobra_scout · Dec 2, 2005

Definitly go Polyurethane bushings...in fact i'm not sure they offer anything else in an aftermarket setup. Your car will come together with time...just do the biggest $ items first. Get em out of the way.

helty · Dec 2, 2005

tomustang said:
keep the sports

thanks Tom i'll be subscribing to your newsletter soon

timeless2 · Dec 2, 2005

helty said:
thanks Tom i'll be subscribing to your newsletter soon

See, there is good tech on here.

zincyellow03 · Dec 2, 2005

Does you guys need another one?

tomustang · Dec 2, 2005

why are they getting locked? you should look at the SSOM thread in NE section

helty · Dec 2, 2005

the arkansas threads will never end.....

timeless2 · Dec 2, 2005

tomustang said:
why are they getting locked? you should look at the SSOM thread in NE section

The users request that "this thread is done", so I lock them AFTER they have already started a new one.

helty · Dec 2, 2005

4u2nv said:
The users request that "this thread is done", so I lock them AFTER they have already started a new one.

thats why we love you

timeless2 · Dec 2, 2005

helty said:
thats why we love you

tomustang · Dec 2, 2005

ahhhh, but come one, you gotta beat the post count on the SSOM thread

timeless2 · Dec 2, 2005

tomustang said:
ahhhh, but come one, you gotta beat the post count on the SSOM thread

If you combine all the AR threads, they have probably taken the title.

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