I plan on doing the same thing. I have found the calipers on a t-bird and a set of big bearing spindles off a torino. but I will probably just bite the bullet after the holidays and buy the hubs, rotors,studs and brackets from cobra automotive. I have been open tracking my fast back on granada brakes for almost a decade. I need to upgrade. chris
save yourself a ton of money and effort and use:
65-69 mustang V8 drum brake spindles
69 lincoln four piston calipers
68 tbird rotors
and caliper brackets from cobra automotive.
this is the least expensive way to go unless you get the compete system from a 68 Tbird(spindles out) and have ball joint spacers made to fit them to your mustang ball joints.
65-69 mustang V8 drum brake spindles
69 lincoln four piston calipers
68 tbird rotors
and caliper brackets from cobra automotive.
this is the least expensive way to go unless you get the compete system from a 68 Tbird(spindles out) and have ball joint spacers made to fit them to your mustang ball joints.
i think the track width changes slightly, about 1/2 - 3/4". as for the spindle where the brake rotor rides, it is the same as the V8 mustang which is why the rotors interchange, but the ball joint openings are larger on the Tbird.
i wonder why the boss T/A teams didn't do this back in the day.
i was really hoping Degins would make his dropped spindles so that we could use these brakes with them but i guess he's decided not do this. maybe he will offer a bracket specific to his spindle to do this, we'll see, i guess.
i forgot to mention, if we have enough interest and can come up with a drawing of the caliper bracket we can send it to these guys to have them made, they'll even do group buys.
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acutally they did. ford made a kit to allow the use of the lincoln calipers and Tbird rotors on the front, and then you took the stock front brakes and used them on the rear. this way everything was done with factory parts. and since the kit was available over the counter at the ford dealer, one could, if they knew what parts to order, get the kit and put it on their mustang.
no, i meant the T-bird spindles. i'm well aware of the DOZX bracket and associated parts. the rear kit also included special axles with the correct spacing to mount the front caliper and rotors on the back.
Go to the BOSS-302 Chassis Modifacation book. All the information is in there. Then all you should need to do is call NAPA and buy most everything less the spindles and those should be fairly easy to aquire.
i don't even know anyone that has one of the brackets to get the drwaings from, nor do i have any of the parts to even get a rough estimate from. so far i have a set of stock 69 drum spindles and a set of original 69 disc brake hubs.
the drawback to this system is that it's really very heavy, though it still works quite well, even today.
one of these days if ever get rich, i'm going to buy me a bridgeport and build my own billet aluminum version of these calipers, don't see that happening anytime in the near or even nearly distant future though.
the drawback to this system is that it's really very heavy, though it still works quite well, even today.
one of these days if ever get rich, i'm going to buy me a bridgeport and build my own billet aluminum version of these calipers, don't see that happening anytime in the near or even nearly distant future though.
I have a Cad drawing I've been working on for putting late model Cobra brakes on my 66 coupe using a two piece 3/8" steel plate design. It's pretty much done but I wanted to have a set made of a cheaper material (ploycarbonate plastic) to check the fit and make adjustments. I have a friend of my parents who owns a machine shop, but he's so busy right now he can't fit my little project in
The 1968 Ford Full Size rotor (Raybestos 6008) is not a "drum hub type". It mounts, like all 60's Ford disc/hub assemblies, to the back of disc hubs, which are different from drum hubs.
An alternative is to use Wilwood rotors and aluminium hats in combination with drum hubs. A little more expensive (2 x $75 for the hats and 2 x $50 for the rotors), but significantly lighter. This is similar (or actually identical) to the Cobra Automotive kit.
An alternative is to use Wilwood rotors and aluminium hats in combination with drum hubs. A little more expensive (2 x $75 for the hats and 2 x $50 for the rotors), but significantly lighter. This is similar (or actually identical) to the Cobra Automotive kit.
I am just starting to learn suspension, but this sounds like the way to go in my newbie-like opinion on the subject.
You are saying that 68 Bird spindles will fit our cars (with the exception of the ball joint size), correct?
Then with the spindles adapted, you should be able to use all the factory hubs, rotors, brackets, calipers, etc...
You can't beat that.
Spacers for the joints should be no problem.
Who's to say that you can't just use the Bird ball joints bolted into our control arms???
Any comment on that idea?