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ImportSlayer347

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I put a Braille lithium battery in my stang and what a huge difference. This battery is amazing!

AGM Battery weight: 49 lbs
Lithium Battery weight: 9 lbs
81% Decrease

AGM Resting Voltage: 12.6 (approx.)
Lithium Resting Voltage: 14.2 (approx.)
13% Increase

Starter Draw on AGM: 178 amps
Starter Draw on Lithium: 156 amps
12% Decrease

Starting Time on AGM: 3 secs (avg.)
Starting Time on Lithium 1 sec (avg.)
66% Decrease

I have a couple of quick videos of cranking with a meter on the battery. Working on posting them now.
 

srtthis

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other then cost im a fan of them... we ran a powercell in the nitrous car but the turbo car has a V battery in it for the weight
 

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The one I got is around $2100, but they have one called the GU1R that is around $500 and is plenty powerful for most v8s. Only weighs 6 lbs. and is they put out around 770 CA. I've seen the test machine myself. The initial cost can sting a little, but they pay themselves off.
 

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the powercell 16v is 9lbs and its a grand...
 

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Those batteries are way too rich for my blood, D@mn!!!!
 

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Braille makes a 16 volt 9lb for under a grand too. I love lithium. I'm working on moving the battery to the back too.
 

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But the GU1R is the best choice for the money. A 6 lb battery that can crank almost 800 CA is pretty awesome.
 

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I also heard PowerCell is out of business. I tried to go to their website to confirm this but the domain is for sale.
 

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ImportSlayer347 said:
I also heard PowerCell is out of business. I tried to go to their website to confirm this but the domain is for sale.
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correct... ryan isnt selling them anymore. but i think he has a few left.
 

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ImportSlayer347 said:
The one I got is around $2100, but they have one called the GU1R that is around $500 and is plenty powerful for most v8s. Only weighs 6 lbs. and is they put out around 770 CA. I've seen the test machine myself. The initial cost can sting a little, but they pay themselves off.
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Educate me, how does a $2,100 car battery pay themselves off?
 
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Whew!! I thought the batteries I bought were expensive! That's a good chunk of change. However, I've learned in my older age to each his own. If its what you want, that's all that matters. I hope it serves you well!
 

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FoxMustangLvr said:
Educate me, how does a $2,100 car battery pay themselves off?
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At some point in the chase for less weight, the cost per pound becomes a factor. Are you going to lose 40 lbs by going with a carbon fiber nose on the front of the car? Is going to Lexan windows going to drop 40 lbs off of the car? The cost to go to lighter parts can really start to escalate. So at some point, a $1000 or more battery is actually cost effective from a cost per pound standpoint.
 

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I understand your point but that still doesn't tell me how it will pay for itself in the long run, it merely is a less expensive option for dropping some weight as compared to other more costly options. Maybe that's what the OP really meant.

I.E.., If I parked my F-150 and bought a 4cyl Civic then the Civic will pay for itself eventually with the savings at the pump.

I understand weight reduction for those pro's that want it. This battery also holds a longer charge (or so they say) which will benefit those drag racers running without a charging system (no alternator).
 

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I looked at them last winter when the 01's battery went Tango Uniform, the options were limited and the price was way out of my reach. Sounds like the price is inching down, im betting my next battery in there will be Lithium.
 

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When I said they pay themselves off I was referring to two things actually...

Like others have stated I was talking about the cost of weight savings. Some guys have literally run out of ways to save more weight. But I was also referring to the life span of the lithium batteries versus the lead batteries. There are some race teams and drag racers going on over 10 years on the same lithium battery. I spoke with some guys at the track that replace their optimas every two years. I was just thinking that when fused with the cost of weight savings they do kind of pay themselves off over the long haul. Just my thoughts...but I have been known to be wrong fairly often!
 

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I know the top 6 finishers of the Rolex 24 at Daytona all had lithium batteries. Probably just coincidental, but there has to be something to it.
 

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ImportSlayer347 said:
I know the top 6 finishers of the Rolex 24 at Daytona all had lithium batteries. Probably just coincidental, but there has to be something to it.
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yea... weight
 

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I'd like to think this is the sort of thing a serious racer would purchase...vs someone's daily driver?

$2K for a battery could be a set of heads and such
 

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I was more referring to the $500 GU1R.
 

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ImportSlayer347 said:
I spoke with some guys at the track that replace their optimas every two years.
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Thats not the batteries fault in most cases. They probably have a draw that is slowly draining the battery, i have had 2 optima batteries in about 8 years. The first one lasted me 5 or 6 years and went because i had a drain on the system that killed the battery to the point it wouldnt take a charge. The second one i am still using now and i use no kind of battery tenders in the winter months.
 
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