65ShelbyClone said:I mainly need some new 11 x 2" drums and even the best brake supply in town doesn't have any part numbers listed...at least for that early of a year. The rear is a small-bearing 9" out of a '57-58 Custom 300.
Does anyone here know what other cars or trucks used the same part? The later the model year, the better.
TOM B said:I think thunderbirds are the same ,try this site
http://www.classictbird.com/p6-9brakes.pdf
danny clemens said:I'm sure you're right about other rears having the same size drums but if you can't find them you can take the drum setup off of an 8" rear and they swap perfectly.
ultrastang said:Did you check out the '65/'66 8-inch housing you said you had that was buried in some mud?
danny clemens said:I'm sure you're right about other rears having the same size drums but if you can't find them you can take the drum setup off of an 8" rear and they swap perfectly.
65ShelbyClone said:Yeah I did. Turns out my 65 notchback had a 67-68 rear end under it!The rear wheels stuck out a little bit when I got it, but I thought it just had the wrong backspacing. Later a Versailles rear and Torque Thrusts went on, both at the same time, and then the wheels looked right. I didn't find out that the rear end itself was the problem until last week when I compared the 8" axle to the 9's and saw that they were each 1" too long.
I'm pulling the brakes off my old man's '57 Custom right now and I might be able to clean the drums up enough to use. I'd still like to find some new 11x2 drums for later, though.
The bottom half of that catr was also buried in the flood that covered up the 8".
EDIT: I wrote the above reply probably two hours ago and forgot to post before I finished getting the '57 brakes.
In the process of cleaning up the drums that came off the '57, I figured I would a hang some calipers down inside the friction area. Guess what? they came out to just a hair over 2.375", indicating that they are not 11x2, but closer to 11x2 1/4 or 2 1/2". They say FoMoCo on them too. I checked the pads and they are only 1.75".
That's why I'm in this mess, because I didn't listen to ultrastang before tearing my stuff apart. Like he said, you have to use Mustang axles in the 9" housing if you want to keep the Mustang brakes. The '57 axles are about 1/4" shorter between the axle face and the bearing.
ultrastang said:Sorry for all your problems in this, but when we spoke of this before, I told you it wouldn't work because I knew this from my own personal experience (learned it the hard way) that it wouldn't work if the parts are mixed.
Not to be a cheesey high pressure saleman or anything, but if you ever decide to ditch the drums, I do have rear disc brake adapters to enable you to put a nice set of discs on your housing with your existing 9-inch axles.
D.Hearne said:You might even check into a disc swap using late model Crown Vic discs, these have a small bolt pattern for the housing and 5x4.5 bolt pattern discs. Lots of these donor Vics in the junkyards now.
65ShelbyClone said:Yeah, well, it took me screwing myself to realize you actually do know what you're talking about with regard to 9" rear ends.Your Mark VII conversion brackets are incredibly tempting, BTW. I like the idea that it uses easily-obtainable Ford parts.
I haven't heard of this swap, where can I learn more? Are the disks vented?
In other news, I may take one of these weird 11" drums I have to the brake supply just to see how close they are to the Galaxie/T-Bird suff they have. I'm going there Monday anyway to pick up some hoses I ordered.
I don't recall where I saw some info on the Crown Vic swap, but somewhere out there (or was it right here?) there are some who've done it. The discs aren't vented though. I don't think that's really needed unless you're planning some serious road racing.65ShelbyClone said:I haven't heard of this swap, where can I learn more? Are the disks vented?
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ultrastang said:Being that the '57-'59 small bearing 9-inch rear ends are the same width as the '65/'66 Mustang's 8-inch rears (52¼" bare housing width), you could use the '65/'66 Mustang's axles and brake drums on the '57-'59 Ford small bearing 9-inch housing.
However, you can't use the 8-inch rear end's drums with the big car's axles. --Been there. Done that, and it won't work. If you use the drums from a 52¼" wide 8-inch rear end, you have to use the 8-inch rear end's axles too.
If you use the small bearing axles from the '57-'59 big car 9-inch rear end, then you have to have the drums for the '57-'59 big car to work with the big car's axles.
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