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rednotch

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I " think" I just read something about Rotella reducing their Zinc content recently...
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Pickup & Passenger Vehicle Diesel Engine Oil FAQs | Shell Rotella®

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First question is about t6 but there reply "Most Shell Rotella engine oils, including T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil, contain approximately 1200 ppm of zinc which will benefit older and high-performance engines." Pretty much anything the sell for "older" formulations is still 1200ppm
 
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You absolutely do not need to run brake in oil for roller cam engines. Just use conventional oil for a few changes.

Kurt
 
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rednotch said:

Pickup & Passenger Vehicle Diesel Engine Oil FAQs | Shell Rotella®

Your resource for frequently asked questions related to diesel motor oil for diesel pickup trucks & other passenger vehicles that are answered by Shell’s technical team.
rotella.shell.com

First question is about t6 but there reply "Most Shell Rotella engine oils, including T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil, contain approximately 1200 ppm of zinc which will benefit older and high-performance engines." Pretty much anything the sell for "older" formulations is still 1200ppm
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Curious how old the information might be on those FAQ questions? I looked for dates but could not find any...
Low sulfur fuel, newer exhaust filters and DEF fluid have changed diesel oils ( or so I have read), just like cats have done with gas cars...
 

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They change the API rating when they reformulate them so if its still CK-4 rated they should be the same, think ck-4 was 2017..
 
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TOOLOW91

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Rotella or Penn and send it .
 

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TOOLOW91 said:
Rotella or Penn and send it .
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Are the Brad Penn oils related to Pennsoil or made from the same "crude" ???
 

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A roller 302 will run on pretty much anything. I wouldn’t put too much worry into exactly what it is, but conventional oil is recommended for initial ring break in.


As long as there is oil in the engine, it’ll work.
 
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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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AeroCoupe

lube between the nut and the face. I know my lubes
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limp,

The Heritage Behind PennGrade 1® Racing Oil & The Original Green Oil®

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limp,

The Heritage Behind PennGrade 1® Racing Oil & The Original Green Oil®

The Legacy Behind the Green Oil Built in Bradford. Proven in Competition. Built for What’s Next. Long before PennGrade 1® became trusted in race shops, garage and performance builds across the country, its story began in Bradford, Pennsylvania, a place deeply woven into American oil history. For...
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Hey, thanks alot, that answers some questions.... Always liked kendall, it was just always hard to find...
NEVER liked Pennzoil.. Saw way to many blue smoke oil burners using Pennzoil....
 

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General karthief said:
He over thinks pretty much everything
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I am old and bored on these HOT Florida days.......
 

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Hey, thanks alot, that answers some questions.... Always liked kendall, it was just always hard to find...
NEVER liked Pennzoil.. Saw way to many blue smoke oil burners using Pennzoil....
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If looking for a higher end oil, I always tend to recommend and use vr1. It’s super common, and has extra zinc if that’s what you’re looking for. I’ve ran it for years in street cars and it’s always done me good.
 
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If looking for a higher end oil, I always tend to recommend and use vr1. It’s super common, and has extra zinc if that’s what you’re looking for. I’ve ran it for years in street cars and it’s always done me good.
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I used VR1 in my dodge, never had a problem.....
No, I was just curious what people had to say about using a break in oil on my new roller engine....
I will probably use Castrol 10-30 syn after the break in.....
 
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Break in oil?
Where you going to find that?
Long gone by the 70's
They would just sell you straight 30w back in those days to use
 

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Then use the same Castrol to break it in with
 

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You can still get break in oil 50 years after the 70's...

PennGrade 1® Break-In Oil SAE 30 - High Performance Oils

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PennGrade synthetic break in oil?
They can market anything
 

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As far as I know and from what I am reading it is 100% conventional oil. Can you show me where it says synthetic?
 

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No, I can't show you
Just going off the manufacturer
 

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So then it’s conventional break in oil.
 
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