I think it's funny how people go on the defensive when crap like this happens. It seems like it's almost in people's nature to look for something to get bent out of shape about. I started to about this comment here until I read A, B, and C closely, and determined I'm not in any of those groups. I stand behind what my reply to Chris/Fastdriver was in regaurd to being a true car guy. Now before getting mad about qualifying as a car guy, let me clarify:
People who love cars are going to try to attain them anyway possibly. Whatever way they attain them or the mods/improvements to them, you can't argue with respect or feeling of accomplishement gained by actually doing it themselves. I'm honestly not belittling the guy who doesn't do his own work. MY point here is, that's what really gains MY respect for someone and in my mind makes them more of a "car guy" LOL..
I like anyone I can sit and talk cars with. Ford, Chevy Dodge, Import, doesn't matter. Apparently, there are just varying degrees of "car guydom"... in my mind, anyway.
The original arguement here, I believe, was at the guys who solely shell out the cash AND run their mouths as if their knowledge and ability got the car put together and running.
Perhaps its a semantics thing then. As far as respect goes, I have a lot of respect and appreciation for the people who are talented enough to do their own work (madmike for example). I also respect people with good taste that know what they want and/or have the funds to pay someone else to design something, but it is a different kind of respect. However, I think limiting the term "car guy" only to people who do their own work is somewhat arrogant when "talented" or "mechanically inclined" seem to have more to do with what you respect.
Like I said, It seems to be human nature to take offense over the way things come off sounding when that's possibly not how it was intended.
I mean don't you think the DIY folks can be just as rude and dumb as anyone else in this hobby? I have no time for anyone who acts like an ass regardless of whether or not they posess mechanical skills ya know?
Yeah, kinda. There's gonna be dicks in every social group of people I guess.
Maybe y'all would find it funny, but I've never really been a sports fan. Baseball a little, but that's about it. I have, however, felt the insane loyalty and love for cars that I can see sports fans having with or for their teams...
Nothing to me makes a person look like a bigger dick than hating on say, a Dallas Cowboy fan just because that's who they are... but I've been guilty of doing the exact same thing to a Corvette driver. I don't REALLY dislike the guy, it's more of a competitive thing. I love all cars, but I'll talk crap to a chevy driver in a second, even though I've owned one.. Does that make me a dick? I think that's kinda where car guys are coming from when they label other guys "not real car guys" because they aren't the same... The feelings are more of a competitive nature thing than hate, really...Is this making any sense?
Mustang owners are just plain pricks
**in the key of nanny-nanny-boo-boo
I'm a prick,...I'm a prick
I like to rag on each one based on the stereotype that goes with each vehicle they own, but it's all in good fun. Bimmer/Audi drivers tend to be gel haired pricks, SRT-4 and Cobalt SS owners tend to think their cars are actually special when really they're nothing more than a fast Neon/Cavalier, Vette owners are old guys w/ a mustache full of regret trying to relive the younger days, camaro/firebird owners are redneck hillbillies with mullets, and Mustang owners are just plain pricks
This was funny until I got to the camaro owners and it was HILARIOUS.You forgot the greasy 1986 NHRA nationals T-shirt, though. (<- my family)
Sure! Whadya wanna call the club?
I know, there is only a modest amount that can say that they don't. I just find it ironic, cause after hearing a few on here say he same thing, gets me wondering........what kind of personality traits are common when in a state where even the HS drop outs claim allegiance to Alabama football (like they were on the team back in the day) that there can be 10 guys in a group on a saturday in October, and nobody knows (or cares) what the score is.Mike, I don't like watching sports, and could only tell you who won the super bowl, or the Army-Navy game, but I've played sports all my life, and still do. My pop was a car guy that loved watching and keeping up with sports though, so it clearly doesn't fit everyone.
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