2000GT said:But what does Mustang92 (Bill) think?
I realize that I am in that category more often than I should be, and I am the first to admit it. Perhaps I am too trusting a person, but I treat people how I would want them to treat me. Perhaps next time I'll wait until there is a better consensus about the power gains and exactly what was responsible for them.Mustang92 said:I think you have no real knowledge of what does and doesn't work and make poorly based decisions on what suits your needs. Good luck.
P.S. TBs are worthless on a NA car.
Bill
P.S. TBs are worthless on a NA car.
thats before the new plenums came outMustangLife said:Mustang92 wrote
My point exactly. I just don't wanna see people spending money on products that don't benefit them and them wishing they didn't buy it.
Josh
Black96VertGT said:I realize that I am in that category more often than I should be, and I am the first to admit it. Perhaps I am too trusting a person, but I treat people how I would want them to treat me. Perhaps next time I'll wait until there is a better consensus about the power gains and exactly what was responsible for them.
Is there any chance an AccuFab 75mm TB will make a difference when my PI heads are installed?
Mustang92 said:Since you might have missed it 2000GT's comment was a shot at me not a sincere question about my thoughts on a product. Thus the tone of my reply. He didn't like the fact that he was on the losing end of an arguement when he tried comparing numbers between two cars with similar mods except for LTs. Although it's a fun comparison it didn't prove a thing since the only way to truely compare it same car before and after no other changes. That and track numbers, which is just as important.
Bill
2000GT said:Good job, you figured it out. Let me guess, you either personally sell LT headers or are somehow affilated with folks that sell them? Just a guess.
You say I was proven wrong, but yet still nobody wants to e-mail me their LT dynojet files.
Tell you what, if somebody with LT's sends me their Dynojet file, I will graph my dyno with theirs and post it on Stangnet. Based on what you have stated the last week, "a 250 rwhp GT w/ LT's will produce more avg. hp. than another 250 rwhp GT without LT's". Well, if that's true, my graph should run underneath the LT graph except for at the peaks. Will someone please send my their dynojet file so I can prove myself wrong? Just looking for cars with LT's and around 250 rwhp. If you are considering LT's and staying N/A, this will be very informative for you!
LOL that my question from a post I made 2 seconds ago. I thought there was a leak or something. Thanks.nickthegenius said:Back on topic, the only thing I will warn you about with a TB is that my Accufab whistles like a SOB. I've checked for leaks, etc. and everything is nice and tight. Its not a big deal, but if you are really picky or easily annoyed by odd sounds coming from your engine bay, you might try to find out from other GT owners if the BBK and Mac TBs make the same sort of noise.
I realize I was not the person targeted by the comment, but I do fit the description anyway. So at the risk of repeating myself:Mustang92 said:Since you might have missed it 2000GT's comment was a shot at me not a sincere question about my thoughts on a product. Thus the tone of my reply. He didn't like the fact that he was on the losing end of an arguement when he tried comparing numbers between two cars with similar mods except for LTs. Although it's a fun comparison it didn't prove a thing since the only way to truely compare it same car before and after no other changes. That and track numbers, which is just as important.
Bill
just some guy said:im not reading all 30 replies, so i dont care if you guys have said this or not,
i know someone said, 2 peak hp blah blah, but the rest of the curve is better....
this statement isthe TB has shown on the dyno to only help the top end, and it doesnt give enough to justify its 200+ price tag. i dont run the TB on my cnl, and i still gained 1 mph or so at the track.
TB is unnecessary, esp on a budget.
Black96VertGT said:I realize I was not the person targeted by the comment, but I do fit the description anyway. So at the risk of repeating myself:
Is there any chance an AccuFab 75mm TB (in conjunction with the C&L MASS Air Kit, TrueFlow Pipe and Plenum) will make a difference when my PI heads are installed?
And are you saying long tubes do NOT make a difference, because from what I have read, the consensus seems to be that they do make a difference, not for max numbers, but throughout the curve? I'm thinking about having them done when the headswap is done, but if they are not worth it, I'll save myself some money for a change.
" Back on topic, the only thing I will warn you about with a TB is that my Accufab whistles like a SOB. I've checked for leaks, etc. and everything is nice and tight. Its not a big deal, but if you are really picky or easily annoyed by odd sounds coming from your engine bay, you might try to find out from other GT owners if the BBK and Mac TBs make the same sort of noise."
NicktheGenius
2000GT said:Good job, you figured it out. Let me guess, you either personally sell LT headers or are somehow affilated with folks that sell them? Just a guess.
You say I was proven wrong, but yet still nobody wants to e-mail me their LT dynojet files.
Tell you what, if somebody with LT's sends me their Dynojet file, I will graph my dyno with theirs and post it on Stangnet. Based on what you have stated the last week, "a 250 rwhp GT w/ LT's will produce more avg. hp. than another 250 rwhp GT without LT's". Well, if that's true, my graph should run underneath the LT graph except for at the peaks. Will someone please send my their dynojet file so I can prove myself wrong? Just looking for cars with LT's and around 250 rwhp. If you are considering LT's and staying N/A, this will be very informative for you!
just some guy said:
that is my friend, who dynoed the stocker first, then the cnl, then the cnl with throttle body, the top line is with the TB, but imo thats not worth enough to justify 200+. no one else has really done the throttle body test, like him, but everyone tends to throw around CFM numbers(especially accufab)
cfm doesnt really mean anything. with the TBs, plenums.(unless blown) but most gains you will see with the plenum/tb combo are 85% plenum
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