the reason cali is going against the dogs is because they cant stop the drugs the gangs or none of that so they figured they would tackle something they might be able to handle...i hate how pits are shown to be these horrible animals
Cali + Pits = No Good
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People who agree with the ban are those that have never done an ounce of research on the breed. They let the media think for them which is sad that they let the dummy box teach them 
. Bull terrier are NOT human aggressive by nature, there how ever animal aggressive. Here is a vid of what a pit bull terrier is in it's purest form http://www.filecabi.net/video/bulldog.html this is what God programed them to do Not to fight other dogs.
. Bull terrier are NOT human aggressive by nature, there how ever animal aggressive. Here is a vid of what a pit bull terrier is in it's purest form http://www.filecabi.net/video/bulldog.html this is what God programed them to do Not to fight other dogs.
Adam95GT
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for some odd reason i never looked at this thread.... because i thought it was about sweaty arm pits...
Black95GTS
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While I don't think that wholesale extermination is justified, I will leave you with this nugget:
Your home owners insurance will go up if you own 1 of the following 11 breeds:
Akita
Alaskan Malamute
Chow
Doberman
German Shepherd
Pit Bull
Presa Canario - I've never heard of this but its on the list
Rottie
Siberian Husky
Bull Terrier
Any kind of wolf-hybrid
http://origin.bankrate.com/brm/news/insurance/20030905b1.asp
Why do you think this is? It's simple math. If these breeds are statistically more aggressive, more powerful, and more dangerous then you WILL pay more home owner's insurance. If the breeds aren't, then you won't.
One thing you guys have to consider... say every single dog breed had the same probability of attacking someone. Do you think getting bitten by a chihuahua would be the same as getting bitten by a pitbull? My 12 cousin could easily fend off a chihuahua attack, while I'm pretty sure a full grown pitbull would kill her. Most of the bad rap that pitbulls, rotties, dobermans, etc get is because when they do attack, the results are gruesome.
Blame the environment, the owner, whatever, statistics are what they are.
Adam
Your home owners insurance will go up if you own 1 of the following 11 breeds:
Akita
Alaskan Malamute
Chow
Doberman
German Shepherd
Pit Bull
Presa Canario - I've never heard of this but its on the list
Rottie
Siberian Husky
Bull Terrier
Any kind of wolf-hybrid
http://origin.bankrate.com/brm/news/insurance/20030905b1.asp
Why do you think this is? It's simple math. If these breeds are statistically more aggressive, more powerful, and more dangerous then you WILL pay more home owner's insurance. If the breeds aren't, then you won't.
One thing you guys have to consider... say every single dog breed had the same probability of attacking someone. Do you think getting bitten by a chihuahua would be the same as getting bitten by a pitbull? My 12 cousin could easily fend off a chihuahua attack, while I'm pretty sure a full grown pitbull would kill her. Most of the bad rap that pitbulls, rotties, dobermans, etc get is because when they do attack, the results are gruesome.
Blame the environment, the owner, whatever, statistics are what they are.
Adam
No. They are NOT more aggressive. I dont remember the site but last year I was dong a paper on this and according to the American temperment society, Pit Bulls are alot less aggressive than most household dogs.
They are stronger than most breeds, and as far as dangerous goes thats the same as aggressive. An aggressive dog is a dangerous dog. I still have all my dads papers from when he was fighting the state because they were trying to ban pits in some parishes. Ill see if I can find all the files and Ill give you guys some insight on why these proposals are completely retarded.
that list is just stupid. this whole idea is stupid. The owners who treat their dogs wrong are the problem not the animals. If you breed a human to get into fights and condition him that way what do you think he's going to do? same thing a dog would. the people who are for this are either victims or people who know people who know people who have been victims of animal attacks and base their conclusions on pure conjecture. they need to be exterminated rather than the dogs.
100% pure American Pit Bull Terriors (also Staffordshire Terrier and American Stafforsshires) won't attack human. They are not programed to do so that is FACT. If some one owns a APBT (male pit bull) that weight more then 70lb when fat they are not 100%. Most breeders are breeding for size and there for are mixing pits with English Bull Masstiffs. Once you start mixing you don't know what can happen. The point is 100% pits will lick you before EVER thinking of biting you. Unfortuanatly there are no saticics on how many purebreeds are biting and how many are mixed (for all the dogs listed). Funny there are at least 10 dogs listed as dangerous and only one is up for extermination
btw Dalmations(sp?) should be on those list as I have heard of child attacks on there side as well.
my cousin had a larger dog nicest dog ever had it 15 years and the neighbor girl got into there fenced backyard where the dog was and started poking and hitting it with a stick well it nipped at her.....and my cousin got in trouble.....
its stupid like people sueing mcdonalds and stuff they should have a law to not allow stupid people to reproduce..
its stupid like people sueing mcdonalds and stuff they should have a law to not allow stupid people to reproduce..
Black95GTS
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100% pure American Pit Bull Terriors (also Staffordshire Terrier and American Stafforsshires) won't attack human. They are not programed to do so that is FACT. If some one owns a APBT (male pit bull) that weight more then 70lb when fat they are not 100%. Most breeders are breeding for size and there for are mixing pits with English Bull Masstiffs. Once you start mixing you don't know what can happen. The point is 100% pits will lick you before EVER thinking of biting you. Unfortuanatly there are no saticics on how many purebreeds are biting and how many are mixed (for all the dogs listed). Funny there are at least 10 dogs listed as dangerous and only one is up for extermination
All I'm saying is that statistically speaking, they do in fact attack more. If they didn't, this list wouldn't exist. And not only do they attack more, most of these dogs, specifically pit bulls and rotties, possess extremely powerful jaws. You can't deny that. If I see a rottie, pitbull, or half-wolf type dog bearing down on me I'm a lot more worried then if I see a chihuahua or a scottish terrier.
I feel very strongly about this, because I run frequently in the summer, and one of my routes goes by two houses where the owners have a german shepherd and a rottie. If I run by myself, both dogs raise hackles and bark, but don't go onto the street, but if I jog with my dog on a leash, they will attack, I've had to kick the rottie in the face after it went after my dog and I. And the owner yelled at me for screaming for her and yelling profanity!! I've personally seen these dogs play with the young children, so I know they are gentle with their owners.
The only other dog attack I've ever had was at the age of 12, on my paper route, and it was a Siberian husky that jumped a fence. Also a dog that was great with the family.
Perspective = knowledge + experience
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no those statistics only prove that big dog bites get reported. I can't tell you how many times i've been bit by my ex-girlfriends pom pom. I don't report them or need to go to the hospital for them. all those numbers prove is that if you get bit by a powerful dog you get hurt and need medical assistance.
Black95GTS
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Prove it. I can see your point, but you also have to see mine. You can't respond with "nuh uh" and an anecdote about your girlfriend's dog.
Pit bulls were breed to be aggressive, strong, fight bears, fight other dogs, bait bulls, and protect their owner and their family. I agree that with proper training and socialization, a Pit Bull is a great pet, but unfortunately the fighting instinct is a lot stronger in this breed then other breeds.
People know this, and are very cautious around these animals because of it. As they should be, because most don't have the time or knowledge to properly train this breed.
Just like Labrador's are breed to be retrievers. At 5 months my chocolate lab would play fetch, with anything, for hours. Just like I didn't have to train him to retrieve, the pit bull and others are aggressive by instinct.
Despite being a great field dog, you would never see a lab as a guard dog. Despite being a great guard dog, you'll never see a pit bull retrieve ducks. Dog breeds were created for a purpose, and the pitbull's purpose was to fight.
I can't make my points any more clear.
Adam
Actually pit bulls are horrible gaurd dogs they are in fact Terriors they do the exact same thing other terrior breeds do. Pit bulls are animal agressive but they are not human aggressive by nature. Thats why they are favored in pit rings with other people pressent. Dog fighters have to be able to seperate the dogs with out being bitten themselves. Dog fighters actually switch dogs so they can maintain eye contact with their dog. That would be absolutly imposibble to do if these dogs are so "human aggressive". Destroying a breed based on what man is doing with them is wrong anyway you look at it. For anybody who wants facts on their dog or a dog they are considering bringing into your home take a look at the temermants http://www.atts.org/stats1.html (the higher the % the better temperment is aka friendly).
let me put it this way.....how many years did the south have slaves trained them for it the whole ride....today they are not...its evolution i dont think everyone is programmed its all about upbringing
Black95GTS
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I don't think you can compare black people to dogs. Thats both ignorant and insulting at the same time. There are so many things wrong with this statement that I will pretend that I never read it.
I'm actually embarrassed for you right now.
Adam
And you CAN compare dogs to people. I just wouldn't use it like that. I did a comparison with Muslim people last year saying that if we went by the same rules as they are going by with the dogs then all people who LOOK like a terrorist should be arrested.
All Sharks should be killed because they statically attack humans more then any other fish in the sea. With that logic you could say a whole bunch of things. But the fact of the matter any dog will attack given the right reasons. If they get rid of pitt bulls then the must also get rid of bulldogs and bull terriers cause they were all originally breed for the same purpose. However being from cali myself maybe one day that state will decide to remove its head from there four point of contact. Either that or socal can remove it self from the retards in the north.
yea if they kill all the pits then there will be another breed that will be "the worst" as they put it...how long would they let it go on....if you take one out another will replace it..i think we need to kill all the bears they attack people...and then we should kill all the bees because they sting us.......this is stupid and i think wystang said it best....the people who make these statement know nothing about it and allow the media to influence what they think
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