Can I re-use stock roller lifters?

LXSTASY

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I am in the middle of buying more parts to complete my HCI install. I was curious if I needed to buy new lifters? If so would the stock replacements or the more expensive ones be better. I was told by a head porter that the lifter would collapse with the spring pressure. The springs are stock AFR 165 springs that were tested to handle .550" lift and have 165# on the seat. The cam will most likely be the comp cams XE270HR.
Any info would be helpful
Thanks
Dan

 

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How many miles are on the stock lifters? Me personally, I would replace them now when you put the new heads and cam in. It saves some time and heartache down the road. Lifters are an easy replacement, worth the upgrade/$$$.

Tim

 

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Theres a little over 90k on the motor. If I upgrade can i get away with FMS replacements or should I spring for the comp or crane ones? How much more are the comp or crane lifters than the FMS ones?

 

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When I replaced my lifters I bought the Ford Racing lifters because that is what was reccommended to me for my application. I am not sure if there is any difference between the Ford Racing lifters and the all the other ones available.

Tim

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Ford Racing lifters from 50 Resto: Price - $109.95

Crane lifters from Summit: CRN-36530-16 - $169.95

I have no idea what the difference is.

 

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See I was getting scared becuase I was told that they were $400. At that point I was wondering what could be so great about those, but for another $100 or so i think i will upgrade.
Any advantages over the stock ones or FMS ones by buying the crane or comp?

 

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stang22 said:

Ford Racing lifters from 50 Resto: Price - $109.95

Crane lifters from Summit: CRN-36530-16 - $169.95

I have no idea what the difference is.

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The difference is one box says Crane the other Ford Racing. Buy the Ford Racing rockers and be done with it.

 

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the stock ones are the FMS ones. so basicaly you are just replacing it with stock parts.

 

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Get the ones from crane, I think their $169. I'm sure you could get away with reusing the stockers, but your there so i'd change them.

 

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Grn92LX said:

Get the ones from crane, I think their $169. I'm sure you could get away with reusing the stockers, but your there so i'd change them.

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Hey guess what... Crane supplies Ford's roller lifters, so if you buy the Crane lifters you're paying extra for the same exact part.


Buy the Ford Racing lifters. Same part, less money.

And for the record....

New cam + new lifters = ok
New cam + used lifters = ok
Used cam + new lifters = ok
Used cam + Used lifters = NOT ok *unless both are from the same engine and the lifters are kept associated with the same cam lobe as they were used in that engien that they all came out of. But it's easier just not to do it.

EDIT: of course that's assuming they are low mileage lifters. Get up around 80,000-100,000 miles and it'd be wise to buy new lifters.

 

Grn92LX

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Do your research, the cranes have better internals, hence the $50 extra

 

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Grn92LX said:

Do your research, the cranes have better internals, hence the $50 extra

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I did research and I never found any info that would support your claim. Everything I found said they are the same as what Ford uses and resells under the FRPP banner.

Untill I see the info that proves they're better, they are the same to me.

 

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Guess you gotta know who to talk to. Different internals, but I ain't sayin who I heard it from, you gotta pay for info like that

But I agree, the FMS lifters are just fine. I'm putting slightly better ones in my new motor since i'll be revving it higher than stock. So i'll spend the extra $50 for the cranes.

 

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tjm73 said:

The difference is one box says Crane the other Ford Racing. Buy the Ford Racing rockers and be done with it.

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Just bought a new cam(XE274HR), heads(AFR 185), Lifters(FMS), rockers, and pushrods for my new install, the guy I bought them from (whom I have grown to trust) could have sold me the crane and made more money. Instead he told me this exact thing ...is your name jason by any chance?

 

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I just went through this with my new cam. I was being cheap and reused my lifters... turns out that one of them collapsed so I had to go through all the trouble to replace them... all to save 120 bucks. I wish I had replaced mine when I did the rest of my H/I/C.
Kevin

 

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I'm in the process of doing my H/C/I combo as well. I bought new Comp Cams lifters to go with my XE270HR cam.

 

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Grn92LX said:

Do your research, the cranes have better internals, hence the $50 extra

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So is this actually something you have seen, or just what you heard from someone?

Interested for future reference...

 

Grn92LX

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Sent you a PM Adam

 

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Grn92LX said:

Guess you gotta know who to talk to. Different internals, but I ain't sayin who I heard it from, you gotta pay for info like that

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Ohhhh.....ok.... That totally changes my ideas about this......

 

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If your in there now, you might as well change them now...! It's best to do it right the first time around.

 

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Sicarius428 said:

I just went through this with my new cam. I was being cheap and reused my lifters... turns out that one of them collapsed so I had to go through all the trouble to replace them... all to save 120 bucks. I wish I had replaced mine when I did the rest of my H/I/C.
Kevin

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Same happened to me, I said F-it and yanked the whole motor and currently swapping in the 466, lol. Dont be cheap when it comes to the valvetrain.