Can I use NXT wax???

Cyberdavea · May 15, 2004

I planned on detailing the stang tomorrow... but I might have a problem. As you can see below... I have a full lineup of Maguire's products. The plan was as follows:

1. Wash Car
2. Clay Magic
3. Wash Car
4. Scratch X for a few minor scratches
5. Mag. #9 Swirl Remover
6. Mag. NXT Tech Wax
7. Mag. #26 Final Coat (If I can still feel my arms)

My question is that I heard that the NXT wax will remove the benefits of Scratch X and Swirl Remover... because NXT is a cleaner wax. Should I skip the NXT and just use the #26 wax?!?

Thanks...

JonJon · May 15, 2004

How does Scratch X work?
and your question may get much better replies (technical ones) at www.autopia.org, they really know their stuff about detailing a car.

Turbo92PGT · May 15, 2004

Damn you're going to be busy!!! Thats alot of nice new stuff to put on your car. Let me know how that scratch X works, I've been wanting to try some but I'd rather have it work for the 10 bucks a bottle. I've never found that that swirl remover does anything, but others rant and rave about it. A member on here says to just wipe on it there, no circular motion. and same with the wax and everything else you apply on there if you have problem with swirls. Same with washing the car. I may try it! NXT doesn't seem to really clean alot, I've used almost a whole bottle so far lol. I dont know what to tell u

ZIPP0 · May 15, 2004

Nah, go ahead and use the NXT ontop of all the stuff.

It's just a minor cleaner wax, meaning it shouldn't really remove any polish or swirl remover or anything .... but it does not benifit from putting on multiple layers of NXT.

So when you are done with everything, just put on one coat of NXT, and you should be fine.

LouisianaZJ · May 15, 2004

That looks fine. The cleaners in NXT are very, very light and will not remove much of the fillers contained in the SMR and ScratchX

haha... my chemicals....

Cyberdavea · May 15, 2004

Thanks for the input guys... guess I'll go ahead and use the nxt. And LouisianaZJ you must have over $600 worth of cleaning supplies

LouisianaZJ · May 15, 2004

Turbo92PGT said:
Damn you're going to be busy!!!
....I've never found that that swirl remover does anything, but others rant and rave about it. A member on here says to just wipe on it there, no circular motion......
I've used almost a whole bottle so far lol. I dont know what to tell u

a whole bottle! how much do you use per coat? I only use less than 1oz per coat on a regular sized car. You migh be using it too thick?

ScratchX is a filler+abrasive it will remove some of the swirl with the abrasives and apply fillers/oils to those it does not remove. I have it, I only use it on localized scratches/paint transfers NOT for swirl removal IMHO.

Instead of the meg's smr mabey try out mother's sealer/glaze it will hide the swirls, and is a bit easier to use.

for proper swirl removal the product has to be worked into the finish not just applied and buffed off like wax. I would consider 3M PI-II fine cut rubbing compound for swirl REMOVAL, as it is not a filling polish. Decent results can be done by hand, but the best finish is achieved via machine.

Thanks for the input guys... guess I'll go ahead and use the nxt. And LouisianaZJ you must have over $600 worth of cleaning supplies

hehe, always trying out new stuff

I never really like those armorall wipes or the meg's leather conditioner wipes, you might want to try out lexol leather and lexol vinylex (sp?) or "303" for your interior

03-s281 · May 15, 2004

Put a good polish on before the NXT.

KaPPaBaLL · May 15, 2004

Looks like you have good products but some cancel each other out. Such as the Meguiars #26 Hi-Tech wax and NXT cleaner wax. Between the two ditch the NXT.
Armorall dehydrates your vinyl and will cause it to crack and be leave a yellow/brown residue behind. I recommend Meguiars #40 Vinyl & Rubber cleaner.

You'll get better results in following these steps. For proof do your left quarter panel your way, and do the right quarterpanel my way. Look at the results of the car with the sun shining on the paint. I only ask this because this is how you see the most flaws on a car.

Here is my step

1) Wash Car
2) Claybar... Use spray liberally
3) Wipe off any excess residue the clay lubricant left behind with a microfiber towel... (You do not need to wash your car after claybarring)
4) Paint Cleaner... (Step 1 of every 3 stage products ie. Mothers pre-wax cleaner, Meguiars Paint Cleaner)
4) Polish/Sealer/Glaze... This is usually the step 2 of any 3 stage system. This helps the depth of your paint and gets rid of swirls and scratches. (Note: Those are just few names they go by. It is not 3 separate products)
5) Last but not least Wax... Why would you want any wax that has a cleaner in it when you worked so hard to apply the swirl remover what-not? Use your Hi-Tech #26
You can layer this but nothing more than 2 layers. Anything more is useless.

KaPPaBaLL · May 15, 2004

btw. It should not take just one microfiber towel to do your whole car. Use a new MFtowel everytime you apply a different product. Keep the towels in order for each its own purpose.

BlackBadGT · May 15, 2004

Zaino > *

00GTblkvert · May 15, 2004

Go to www.meguiars.com all you need to know about NXT is there.

LouisianaZJ · May 15, 2004

BlackBadGT said:
Zaino > *

lies

Zaino is very good, but it is definately not the end all be all product out there

you can use microfibers for different products, just wash between uses.

Turbo92PGT · May 16, 2004

Thats it! I'm detailing my car tomorrow! It's been needin it. No wax or anything, just a good wash, unless its raining. Concentrating more on the interior.

As far as using a whole bottle, I've waxed my car probably 3-4 times, my dad waxed his vette 2 times, and my moms taurus once. I may be using too much though. I'll have to experiment.

Str8Pimp'n · May 16, 2004

Also, go here http://www.showcargarage.com/ This is Mike Phillips personal site. He is a rep for Meguiars and a detail guru.

rjstaaf · May 16, 2004

KaPPaBaLL said:
5) Last but not least Wax... Why would you want any wax that has a cleaner in it when you worked so hard to apply the swirl remover what-not? Use your Hi-Tech #26

This would be true if you are only using an SMR to "hide" defects rather than remove them. If you are using an SMR as it should be to "remove" defects than why are you worried about a cleaner wax removing the oils left behind? NXT is far from a "cleaner wax". The cleaners in NXT are very mild and although they may abrade any oils left behind it is very unlikely they will completely remove them.

rjstaaf · May 16, 2004

Cyberdavea said:
I planned on detailing the stang tomorrow... but I might have a problem. As you can see below... I have a full lineup of Maguire's products. The plan was as follows:

1. Wash Car
2. Clay Magic
3. Wash Car
4. Scratch X for a few minor scratches
5. Mag. #9 Swirl Remover
6. Mag. NXT Tech Wax
7. Mag. #26 Final Coat (If I can still feel my arms)

My question is that I heard that the NXT wax will remove the benefits of Scratch X and Swirl Remover... because NXT is a cleaner wax. Should I skip the NXT and just use the #26 wax?!?

Thanks...

The benefits of ScrachX and #9 all happen in the application, not in what is left behind. You are using them to remove scratches and swirls correct? If you are counting on the oils to hide your scratches than using something like #7 will be more effective.

Personally I don't think I would top NXT with #26. If I were to top NXT it would be with a very clear wax like #16, P21S, S100 or something similar.

Here are a some pics of my '01 GT. The lighting is very different in the #26 and NXT pictures, I think the looks are very similar in that they both offer a deep, dark and very wet look.

Meguiars #7 topped with #26

Meguiars #7 topped with #26

NXT Tech Wax

rjstaaf · May 16, 2004

KaPPaBaLL said:
4) Paint Cleaner... (Step 1 of every 3 stage products ie. Mothers pre-wax cleaner, Meguiars Paint Cleaner)
4) Polish/Sealer/Glaze... This is usually the step 2 of any 3 stage system. This helps the depth of your paint and gets rid of swirls and scratches. (Note: Those are just few names they go by. It is not 3 separate products)

This can be very confusing. Every manufacturer uses the term "polish" differently. Most think of polishing to mean removing defects. Actually in the industry polish usually means a glaze which in very basic terms are oils that add gloss and help level the paint by filling imperfections and the poors of the paint. There are products though that are called polish yet they have cleaners in them whether they be abrassive or chemical. These not only have those oils but, also the cleaners to help remove light defects. Most SMRs are a perfect example of this, they contain oils and abrassive and/or chemical cleaners. The oils in cleaner polishes also serve the purpose to buffer the abrassives to control their abrassiveness.

In the second "4)" though regarding polish/sealer/glaze though is incorrect. A pure polish will NOT remove anything.

Most 3 step systems work this way

Step1 - paint cleaner to remove defects through abrassive and/or chemical cleaning
Step2 - pure polish containing oils that add deep gloss and help level the paint by filling in the imperfections and poors of the paint.
Step3 - pure carnauba wax that contains no cleaners.

I hope you don't take this personally but, I just want to make sure any newbies don't get confused.

KaPPaBaLL · May 16, 2004

rjstaaf said:
This can be very confusing. Every manufacturer uses the term "polish" differently. Most think of polishing to mean removing defects. Actually in the industry polish usually means a glaze which in very basic terms are oils that add gloss and help level the paint by filling imperfections and the poors of the paint. There are products though that are called polish yet they have cleaners in them whether they be abrassive or chemical. These not only have those oils but, also the cleaners to help remove light defects. Most SMRs are a perfect example of this, they contain oils and abrassive and/or chemical cleaners. The oils in cleaner polishes also serve the purpose to buffer the abrassives to control their abrassiveness.

In the second "4)" though regarding polish/sealer/glaze though is incorrect. A pure polish will NOT remove anything.

Most 3 step systems work this way

Step1 - paint cleaner to remove defects through abrassive and/or chemical cleaning
Step2 - pure polish containing oils that add deep gloss and help level the paint by filling in the imperfections and poors of the paint.
Step3 - pure carnauba wax that contains no cleaners.

I hope you don't take this personally but, I just want to make sure any newbies don't get confused.

I agree, that pure polish won't REMOVE it. But rather it hides it. Nothing to worry about. When i say "gets rid" i meant not visible to the eye anymore. Other than that looks like we were both saying the same thing and i could understand newbs getting confused.

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