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Car just stopped turning over..

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Ok.. This just happened out of nowhere.. I got up for work an was getting ready to leave.. started my car as I started it.. I heard a pop like lose connection sound and the car wouldnt start..

I checked the solenoid wire .. no corrison checked the power wires.. no cracks no corrison..

When I hold the key down the fuel pump continually starts up// an if I hold it down long enough I hear a metal sound every few seconds.. An it sounds like its coming rom underneath my car.. I am unaware if it may be a bad starter.. It just stopped!

Please if anyone could give me an idea what it could be and how to fix it that would be great.. I cant afford to miss work anymore because of this POS mustang
 

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Go over all of your connections again, just to be on the safe side. It could very well be a bad starter. Is your car manual, and if so, will it push start? If the starter's bad, you can sometimes free them up by giving them a few bangs with a BFH.
 
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I can try to push start it.. I was just out there and held the key down when the fuel pump starts is when I hear a CLICK sound then it starts but only every so many turns does it happen
 

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So it does start after some time, but you hear the click and then a delay before the starter turns?
 
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it doesnt start anymore.. it just when the key is in the start position an held the fuel pump turns on again.. even though its already engaged.. an possible a kinda loud clunk sound an then the fuel pump starts over again and thats it.. just quiet..
 

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The fuel pump should prime everytime you turn on the key to build fuel pressure, so that part makes sense. I'd guess as long as you have a sufficient charge and you get the click from the solenoid, the starter is toast, given all of your electrical connections are in good shape.
 
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its not clicking anymore all I hear is.. the relay clicking and the module in front of the radiator..

I had the car started for almost 3 minutes.. it seemed to be running very very very poorly like on half the cylinders and when i gave it some gas it died..

When I tried to crank it over car would start and stop fast.


Now the starter is not doing naything nor solenoid
 

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I'd charge the battery up. Turn the engine over by hand a few times to see if you hear anything unusual.

Did you check the PDC connection?

If you find it push-starts still (and runs ok), as Matt said, the bendix is suspect, as is the ring gear on your flywheel.

Good luck.
 
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I will try to push start it again when the car started.. it did not stay running it stalled when I gave it some gas.. then it wouldnt stay running when i kept trying to tstart it then the starter stopped... the flywheel - gear and everything is new
 
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HISSIN50 said:
Did you check the PDC connection?

If you find it push-starts still (and runs ok), as Matt said, the bendix is suspect
Good luck.
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Now PDC connection the power distribution box? where the starter relay fuse and so forth is?

an also the Bendix??? explain

Thanks
 

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HISSIN50 said:
Did you check the PDC connection?
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PDC is??? While I'm tempted to use acronyms myself, I tend not to, as I believe many readers don't understand what the letters stand for. Now, when you tell me what PDC stands for I'll say to myself, damn, another seniors moment, just like I did when you told us what "Zerked" meant in another thread. Getting old isn't easy.
 

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PDC = Power distribution Center. I like the idea of not using acronyms but I tend to just brainstorm (in my own terms) while typing. My bad.

The PDC power connection (under a plastic cover on the side of the underhood fusebox) is arguably the most important connection on the car. There's a nut holding the cables down and the terminals tend to corrode. I clean mine once a year or so. Because this connection merges the battery, alt and underhood and interior power, if it goes funky, all bets are off.

Bendix is the drive gear on a starter motor. It meshes with the flywheel's ring gear, causing the flywheel (ergo engine) to turn over.

If the bendix doesnt mesh with the ring-gear precisely, the starter wont work properly or will work intermittantly.
 
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Thanks again for the help bro I will see what I can do tomorrow.. an get this thing working again an sell it for good.. I hate 4.6 stangs but got my eye set on a Saleen 03 with a nice little power adder =) plus I always wanted a convertable haha
 
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Well heres what happened so far the car turns over now thats it.. will not start it seems to start for less then 2 sec's then off.. It was fine prior to all of this... seems like this car is the problem
 
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