carbing a 94 cobra

murphs 94 stang · Jun 8, 2008

I'D appreciate any help i can get with this problem. I currently have a 94 cobra and i'm looking for someone in the central missouri area to remove my current EFI setup and install a intake and carb setup with everything i need to do it right.I'd do this myself but betwee \n working 3 jobs and looking after my wife who was left severly disabled in an auto accident in 2006 i have no time .I love this car but the shopd i've called all want in access of 1000.00 to tune and chip my ecu hell i can tune a carb setup and really wish i had done my homework on this setup before i bought this car but alas i did not so now i'm stuck with the redheaded stepchild of the mustang world as far as getting anything out of this car performance wise.Thanks to anyone who can help me.:SNSign:

BlownFiveLiter · Jun 9, 2008

to :SNSign:

$1000 for a tune? Wow those are some expensive shops.

Do you have any mods done to the car and are you having any issues? We typically recommend creating a signature that lists your mods, also, as it can help with getting some help with the issues you're experiencing before we ask what the combo is. I'd highly recommend staying away from a carb, even though it can tend to be a much simpler setup when it comes to tuning. Ditching the EFI will lead to needing a fan controller, plus the remainder of the carb setup. Off the top of my head, the things I can think of that you'd need are an intake, carb, distributor, ignition system, new fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, new lines (possibly from the tank all the way to the carb), and a fuel pickup from the tank. In parts alone, I could see you very quickly eclipsing the $1000 for the tune. Plus, you'd lose the benefits of EFI, being that it can adapt to changes on the fly without creating drivability problems. Being the red headed stepchild really only applies to the EEC setup, since anything that can be done to the Fox Mustangs can be applied to the SN95 models, engine wise.

I understand you're pretty strapped for time, since it sounds like you definitely have a lot on your plate currently, but if self-tuning sounds like something you'd be interested in, you could pick up a TwEECer RT, or Anderson PMS, a wideband, have an O2 sensor bung welded in, and a cheapo laptop off eBay for under a grand, if you do some shopping around. I picked up my TwEECer RT pretty cheap off eBay used, but in perfect condition. Got it for roughly the cost of the base model TwEECer. There's some very knowledgable guys here on the forum that can definitely help with a tune in one form or another. If the self-tuning isn't up your alley, there's a couple that could help get you going with a mail-order tune, also.

Guero · Jun 9, 2008

If your only reason is 2 go carb is 2 not pay for a tune your not gonna like going Carb.......U will spend more than 1k going Carb anyway...

murphs 94 stang · Jun 9, 2008

the engine has had a set of AFR 165 heads,B303 cam and complete new valve train,1 inch phenolic spacer,C&L cold air kit,MAC equal length shorty headers bassani x-pipe with cats into flowmaster 40's,it also has a FRPP lightweight flywheel and aluminum driveshaft and i also just bought a set of billet aluminum underdrive pulleys......the cars running a 5 speed with a 3:55 rear gear which will be changed to either a 3:73 ,3:90,or 4:10 and by the way it's got the original cobra intake

murphs 94 stang · Jun 9, 2008

how much does the twEECer units run? the problem i'm having is the car just seems to fall off badly at around 4000 rpm and just does'nt seem as strong as it should be

BlownFiveLiter · Jun 9, 2008

I'm not really supposed to post anything classified related in here, but I'm a mod, so what the hell

Our very own 94-95 member, WhiteDevil is selling his TwEECer RT for $450:
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=752724

murphs 94 stang · Jun 12, 2008

i saw where you said those were expensive shops, the closest place i tried was muscle mustangs in the st.louis area they seemed to be really knowledgeable on the phone but also somewhat disinterested as i had once had a conversation about doing the mods i have listed on my signature but instead did them myself as i am working on alimited budget see in jan. of 06 in the accident that left my wife disabled i lost my 24 year old daughter plus a grandson and if that was not enough on march 4th of this year my 15 year old drowned in our hottub so i was left with 3 funerals to pay for desite the fact i had insurance on them all, my health insurance provider ended up the much of the insurance proceeds through litigation so any help i can get through a cheaper alternative would be appreciated, thanks and have a good evening

stackz · Jun 19, 2008

just get an SCT chip for you cobra and be done with it. They can burn you a chip to your engine/rearend specs and send you the finished chip in the mail. then all you have to do on your limited time frame is take 5 minutes to pull out the computer and stick the chip on the J3 connector and put the computer back in and crank the car.

voila.

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=138&parent=66

Gearbanger 101 · Jun 19, 2008

Yeah.....agree with the above post. Pulling the EFI system off and going to a carb'd set up is ludicrous. Working backwards is never the answer. Show me someone who thinks it would be a better idea to rip apart a perfectly good EFI system to put on an old dinosaur of a carburetor set up for the sake of simplicity and I'll show you a person who doesn't know any better and is just looking for headaches.

Rule of thumb.... Always move forward with an existing package. It will cost you less money and aggravation in the end. If you're building a car from scratch (and by scratch I mean bare chassis from the ground up), go ahead and throw a carb on it. It's certainly the less expensive set up to start with of the two, but then again if you’re building a car from the ground up, you’re probably not out to save a buck in the first place.

Of course.....CFI set ups are excluded from the above example. They’re just a PITA all the way around!

SQUEEZE&STROKE · Jun 19, 2008

I converted my car to carb...I am now looking at converting it back to EFI. It will cost you close to $2K for the CORRECT parts to go to carb. Plus, if you have emissions, you are screwed. If it is a track only car, fine, but it really is not worth it. You make a little more power, but there are alot of hedaches associated.

BlackVert · Jun 19, 2008

contact don@lasotaracing.com he is awesome

reddy351 · Jun 19, 2008

BlackVert said:
contact don@lasotaracing.com he is awesome

I was hoping someone would chime in with that. They are highly regarded in the 94-95 Mustang circles. From what I hear, they are the only ones to be trusted with a "mail order" tune.

The "chip" that they sell is about $400. You almost can't even buy a carb, for that kind of $$$.

blksn955.o · Jun 19, 2008

There is a local website....er local to the St. Louis area. The owner is very good with mustangs and is a tweecer/sct dealer. If money is an issue and you need a tune he has several options and good with the 94-95 eec to boot. All his options would be a lot cheaper than 1k. The guy is in the desloge(sp?) area IIRC, do depending on were your at in central MO he may be worth a little road trip.

I dont want to ruffle any feathers putting another websites address here but if you want it PM me.

95five-ostang · Jul 1, 2008

dont listen to anyone i had some many problems with my 95 gt and i switched to carb and didnt spend much at all and it made a hell of a differeence. dont listen to this people who say go back in time who cares it is your car and you will love it when you are done. it is not hard at all and you will not regret it and i still drive it everyday ad get 18 to 20 mpg starts when it snows and if it is hot ni problem

BlownFiveLiter · Jul 1, 2008

Going carb is a bandaid for not knowing how to work on EFI, not knowing how to tune it, or not having someone available to tune it. Any one of those are easily overcome for a hell of a lot less money and headaches than converting to a carb. Stay EFI if you can.

Gearbanger 101 · Jul 2, 2008

95five-ostang said:
dont listen to anyone i had some many problems with my 95 gt and i switched to carb and didnt spend much at all and it made a hell of a differeence. dont listen to this people who say go back in time who cares it is your car and you will love it when you are done. it is not hard at all and you will not regret it and i still drive it everyday ad get 18 to 20 mpg starts when it snows and if it is hot ni problem

You sound like the same sort of guy who would insist on chipping rocks into a wheels instead of buying actual tires for your vehicle because it’s the cheaper method and that’s how it was done in the old days?

EFI > Carb. Unless it came with one from the factory, or you're starting from scratch with a blank canvas or a particular class you race in requires it, there's no practical, or for that matter intelligent reason to convert backwards to a carburetor from SEFI....sorry.

If you want to be so helpful, how about instead of chastising those of us who are trying to save him a pile of money and effort by steering him away from the idea, why don’t you put together a detailed parts, time and labor list for him to go over and make his own informed decision. I guarantee you’re backwards conversion is the one that comes up on the more costly and time consuming end!

BlackVert · Jul 2, 2008

when i was researching converting my 410 to carb, i figured that the sale of all my efi stuff, including the intake, throttle body, ecu, harnesses, injectors, etc ... would net me about $1500. but that is not stock cobra stuff, so that is probably more than what murph should expect to get for his stuff

the cost of going carb is not zero, but i figured it would run about a grand for the parts, and then whatever the labor would cost. i actually bought most of it, and now it is sitting in my basement not getting used because i decided to stay efi.

2002BLGT · Sep 3, 2008

EFI is always better

5.0_GT_kid · Sep 3, 2008

I agree with StangGT and Gearbanger. There is simply no logical reason to switch from EFI to carb unless it's a dedicated race car.

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