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Ceramic or chrome headers ???

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Road_Runna

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Which are better and why ? will either of these heat the engine compartment too much ?
 

N8Miller

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i have BBK chrome headers, not the expensive cermamic ones. i think that they look great even after i drove it for a while. as long as they are good quality, it will keep the temp of the engine bay down.
 

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If you want em for just the performance gain get the cheaper ones(chrome), If you want somethin thats gonna look good for 10 years get the ceramic....?Don't some companies just coat the outside and not the inside or the flanges or bolts?
 

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chrome = nice and shiny for a couple years but gets hot quick

ceramic = keeps the heat out and the finish lasts longer

i would go for ceramic if you have the $$
 

Venom4.6

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Ceramic. Hands down. Like said before, less heat and they look good longer. I've seen Chrome headers that discolor after a couple of months.
 
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What ever you buy, make sure it is not MAC HTS coated, it sucks donkey balls.
 

bmo37

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mac hts isn't a ceramic coating just a tacky like heavy duty paint. go with the ceramic they will last opposed to chrome ones that will turn blue in a few weaks and rust like there's no tomarrow
 
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I agree wih the above posts. It's like the difference between stainless steel and steel - one obviously is a lot more durable over time.
 

Michael Yount

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As others allude to, there's no comparison between ceramic coating and any other header coating. Nothing else but ceramic will hold up over time no matter how carefully it's applied. Furthermore, ceramic coatings significantly reduce radiant heat loss into the engine bay.
 

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bmo37 said:
mac hts isn't a ceramic coating just a tacky like heavy duty paint. go with the ceramic they will last opposed to chrome ones that will turn blue in a few weaks and rust like there's no tomarrow
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Don't forget that MAC does make actual ceramic headers! I have a set.
I hope ceramic is as good as they say because they are definitely ugly....

 
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v8only

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ceramic ugly??

what are you smoking, pass it over!!! But then again you're talking about mac

my bro just forked out the $300 for a pair of ceramic coated ford racing shorties from summit.

these headers are no bull****. they've got a super thick one piece flange, the welds look beautiful, and install was straight forward with none of the bolts being hard to get to, unlike those two on each side of the mac shorties which are just about impossible to get to.

Fork out the extra cash, get something that will last.
 

Venom4.6

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v8only said:
ceramic ugly??

what are you smoking, pass it over!!! But then again you're talking about mac

my bro just forked out the $300 for a pair of ceramic coated ford racing shorties from summit.

these headers are no bull****. they've got a super thick one piece flange, the welds look beautiful, and install was straight forward with none of the bolts being hard to get to, unlike those two on each side of the mac shorties which are just about impossible to get to.

Fork out the extra cash, get something that will last.
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I've got the FRPP ceramic shorties. Fit and finish are perfect. They still look as good as the day I put them on. Easier to install than an H-pipe. Money well spent.
 

Michael Yount

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My stock HO headers and the Ford Racing shorties I had ceramic coated locally. You can each form your own opinions about what's pretty....

 
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v8only

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Michael, I dunno, I just don't agree and don't think that turkey is very pretty. Perhaps you should have ceramic coated him one more time???

Haha, jk, corral doesn't allow offsite linking anylonger.

if you're looking for free web hosting, www.worldwidegarage.com offers free 5 megs
 

Michael Yount

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Well, it showed up for a little while, but I guess Corral got tired of hosting them! Oh well, IMAGINE an ugly set and pretty set, and then imagine that the ceramic set is the pretty set. Thanks for the free host link V8...
 

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v8only said:
ceramic ugly??

what are you smoking, pass it over!!! But then again you're talking about mac

my bro just forked out the $300 for a pair of ceramic coated ford racing shorties from summit.
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The coating is fine, but the overall fit and finish is lacking. But then again, I don't exactly have a show car. I paid $200 for them...

BTW, the sound is awesome!!
 

89MustangGX

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JetHot coating is by far the best, to my knowledge FMS (FRPP) and JetHot themselves are the only ones selling them already done -- and JetHot sells Flowtech headers that they coat. I've run several different brands and the Ford ones are by far the best -- coated inside and out.
 

Gearbanger 101

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I have Mac's....they were cheap....they are crappy. The End
 

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89MustangGX said:
JetHot coating is by far the best, to my knowledge FMS (FRPP) and JetHot themselves are the only ones selling them already done -- and JetHot sells Flowtech headers that they coat. I've run several different brands and the Ford ones are by far the best -- coated inside and out.
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Thats the way to go really. Jet-Hot will coat them inside and out for you. Probably about $150.00 to $175.00 for a set, but well worth it in my opinion. I love mine!


Tim
 

Michael Yount

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Like 89GX (we agree!) I've had great past experiences with JetHot; for the shorties on my car, however, I heard good things about a local company and I used them to coat the stainless FRPP shorties on my car now. I didn't really have a choice; I had to bend/grind one of the headers to clear the frame, and all that had to be done and test fit before they could be coated. From what I can tell so far, everything appears to be up to JetHot standards from a quality perpective and they were much less expensive, of course with no shipping costs either. So if you decide to go that way, you may want to check around you local area and see if you have a shop that does ceramic coating -- their customers will tell you how good they are or aren't. And don't confuse powder coating with ceramic - two completely different things - and the powder coatings won't hold up to exhaust temps.
 
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