Cheapest and best fitting 351 oil pan

83Mustang427TT

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Hey guys,
My fiance wants the engine in the car and luckily Im done with as much as I can do before it goes in anyway..Im lookin for the cheapest and best fitting 351 Swap pan. Last time I used the moroso swap pan and I dont like the way the rear bolts go through the inside of the pan, That and the ARP oilpan bolts didnt seem long enough to seal the thick rail on the moroso pan ... I have been kinda leaning towards the hamburgers oil pan what'dya all think ? is it any good or should I go with The FRPP stock type pan?

 

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I would think the FRPP pan would be the cheapest. I have not heard any quality complaints on them.

I am using a Canton pan, and it has treated me well.

jason

 

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truck pan

 

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86bluecobra

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i have a milidon pan on my 351w. the problem with them is they didn't make a dipstick at the time for it. it took me forever to get the right one and a lot of calls to the tech line.

 

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The Frpp is ok but I wanted something with a lil more capacity Anyone got any E-coupons for jegs?

 

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FRPP pan and a standard volume oil pump. You don't really need anything else. I'd use a Canton for higher capacity, their price is not cheap but competitive...PB

 

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crown vic from a junkyard, and if you wanted extra cap you could cut and weld. thats how a lot of aftermarket pans are made from stock stuff (ie canton)

 

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352Ford2 said:

crown vic from a junkyard, and if you wanted extra cap you could cut and weld. thats how a lot of aftermarket pans are made from stock stuff (ie canton)

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My Canton pan does not resemble a stock pan in any way.
Even the rails are obviously not part of a stock pan.

I am sure they did cut and weld when doing the design work.
No reason to reinvent the wheel when doing mockups.

The production pans seem to be fab'd from scratch though.

 

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Most oil pans are made from a stamping die that is kinda costly tooling for low production numbers. That is why a number of aftermarket oil pan makers use new stock pans (or one for a stock replacement then they only need one tool for the number of diffrent types of oil pan they offer for that engine) and cut and weld in the additional features. It isn’t that bad if it is done properly (fixtures, good diamentional control, etc.). The advantage of the expensive aftermarket pans that have their own tooling is you can put in some really neat features like thicker pan rails. Look at a canton, and you will see it has the factory rail and the extra capacity sumps that have been welded on.

http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/pans/road_race/ford_rear_sump.html

 

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I am not trying to pick a fight, but it seems that the Canton pans are cut from flat stock, bent to shape, and welded together.

The rail on my Canton pan does not resemble the stock 351w rails I have seen.
The Canton pan has a series of grooves (not sure what else to call them), that supposedly provide better gasket sealing.
The stock pan rails I have seen have all been flat on the gasket surface.

I don't feel that the Canton pan uses a stock Ford pan as a starting point. No doubt a couple of Ford pans were sacrificed by Canton to create the Canton design, but it appears that the production Canton pans are fabricated from scratch.