CHP oil pan/pickup, questions..

[OinkAodeOink]

Im looking to get an oil pan/pickup for my car, to replace the stock one i had to beat up to get the pickup and pan to fit..

-Using a B50 block
-Using a main support very similar to this one.. Which isnt notched on the the pickup side, like DSS does.

My question is, what do i need to do about the pickup when using a main support? Anyone know if this pickup will work with a main support?
Anyone using one of these pans? They seem really cheap pricewise.
Oil pan and Pick up

 

[281pony]

who makes your main support?

that pan says its designed for use with probe stuff, which is mainly what chp bases all their products on.

best thing i think would be to give them a call and ask.

 

[OinkAodeOink]

Thats the thing, i do not know who makes the support.. I picked it up used at a swap meet, for cheap. From a quick Ebay search, i found that picture, which looks to be the identicle main support i have..

his main support is from CAT
seems to be what i have..

 

[281pony]

hmm maybe just call still and let them know how thick it is, and if there is any notching/no notching, ect.

they should be able to give you an idea on if the pickup will work or not still.

 

[OinkAodeOink]

BTW, looks like your building a stout motor.. Are you using some sort of main support? If so, what are you doing as far as the pickup, main support and pan go?

Im nto stuck on the CHP/Probe stuff, there just the only one ive found so far, that state there stuff works with main supports.

I would prefer going with a Moroso pan, since ive not to read a bad thing about them yet. ( as far as leaks,quality,ect)

 

[281pony]

i cant remember if i had a main support added onto mine or not.

it has all forged 4340 internals, including crank. so they didnt really seem to think it was necessary for me.

i just got my canton oil pan today, got it for 250 shipped with pickup, and a dipstick. looks like a nice oil pan.

 

[rubberneck]

Im looking to get an oil pan/pickup for my car, to replace the stock one i had to beat up to get the pickup and pan to fit..

-Using a B50 block
-Using a main support very similar to this one.. Which isnt notched on the the pickup side, like DSS does.

My question is, what do i need to do about the pickup when using a main support? Anyone know if this pickup will work with a main support?
Anyone using one of these pans? They seem really cheap pricewise.
Oil pan and Pick up

make sure you get a pan with a screw in dipstick. i put a moroso on mine and the dipstick crushed between the oil pan and the block and doesnt come out. now i get to have a cut dipstick and a screw in one.

 

[281pony]

ouch, that sucks. was that with a stock dipstick?

the canton i bought came with a nice screw in dipstick. guess its a good thing based on that.

 

[OinkAodeOink]

hmm, yea the cantons look like nice pans, but i really want to try and stay away from having to beat or cut/reweld anything, unless i have to.

The moroso pans look nice, kinda cheap too in Jegs.

 

[281pony]

what do you mean cut/re-weld?

its supposed to be a direct bolt on pan. i dont see anything on mine that appears to need work.

 

[rubberneck]

ouch, that sucks. was that with a stock dipstick?

the canton i bought came with a nice screw in dipstick. guess its a good thing based on that.

yeah, for some reason i decided to try to use it, and it definatly doesnt work. my moroso pan came with a dipstick, but it wasnt bent for longtubes, tried to save time and learned a lesson

 

[281pony]

yeah, ive been there believe me.

im just curious about this modifying canton pans. i sure the hell am not modifying mine, although i dont see anything questionable with it. it is a little deeper in the most shallow spot compared to the stock pan so hopefully its ok.

 

[Rick 91GT]

Canton Pan = DROP ON AND FORGET ABOUT IT

No reason you should have to modify one of there pans, I install a lot of these on customers motors along with my own stuff and never had any issues. I use the thick Fel-Pro 1 piece gasket, ARP bolts, a thin coating of RTV, a bead at the front and rear seals, NO STOCK SUPPORT rails and never had a leak.

Canton makes a S model pan that is made for use with main girdles, they are a little deeper in the center section and do not have the crank scapers to interfere with the girdle. That being said I have used DSS girdles succesfully in the regular pan with no issues at all.

The pan you pictured above from CHP is not the correct pan for your car, it is a front sump. You need the dual pan with a REAR sump. Usually in the $259, last time I remember seeing Mark the owver of Probe say they were out of stock on oil pans, you may want to check before you order. I know my supplier has Cantons in stock

The main support looks like a CAT, the CHP/Probe is similar but it fits better and is thicker. From what I remember Probe use to supply Canton there girdles but Canton copied it, changed it a little and started making it thereselves.

You will need to heat and bend the pick-up to get it to fit correctly around the girdle and get proper clearance for the pick-up to the bottom of the pan 3/8"-1/2".

The issue with the older Moroso pans are it doesn't step back from the rear of the motor so if you run a 5spd with a blowproof bell it is near impossible to get the lower bolts in. They did just release a pan to fix this... All Moroso standard pans are painted black, just some thing to flake off and rust.

I will say my custom Moroso Alum pan for external oil pump is very sweet, fits like a glove on my SVO block.

 

[EMW150]

The issue with the older Moroso pans are it doesn't step back from the rear of the motor so if you run a 5spd with a blowproof bell it is near impossible to get the lower bolts in.

Heard that! What a ##!!!#

 

[281pony]

thanks rick, that is something i had in question.

i have a one piece gasket, and the notification i got with my pan said they dont seal well. ill just put a little rtv at the front and the back and keep this one then.

 

[Rick 91GT]

88SC GT, I tried the thin rubber gasket and it didn't work well, I tried the cork gasket and it worked but I am not a real big fan of them.

The rubber re-enforced gasket I use is PT#OS34508R