Cms stage 1 cams Installed

kuwait · Oct 11, 2008

just got my car back from the garage after having Stage 1 installed , i can say the idle is pretty loud on my car , louder than i anticipated and quite chubby

the car smells strongly of fuel tho due to it running stupidly rich on idle ( i smell strongly of fuel now after standing 2 min by it chatting to the guy who installed the cams ) and i think it needs to adjust its almost dieing out on first start but its getting better , just wanted to check up on few things , first when i let the gass the car seems to just cruise at 1100 RPM and dont want to slow down , for example if its in third on 80 km/h it would just hang there , the engine shakes abit on idle but i guess that's due to its barely able to up and being all rich.

i gave the car one WOT run after putting few miles on it because i just cant wait and it seems to have gained some good power all around.

and yes , idle video coming once i get my laptop working.

Cobra123089 · Oct 11, 2008

nice, keep us updated on how you like them, I m ordering mine next month. Defiantly get that vid up

evil281 · Oct 11, 2008

did u get it dyno tuned yet?

kuwait · Oct 11, 2008

evil281 said:
did u get it dyno tuned yet?

patience... patience , video is being uploaded as we speak

kuwait · Oct 11, 2008

and here is the vid

YouTube - Cms stage 1 idle

dont mind the **** in the vid...

kuwait · Oct 12, 2008

is the car suppose to be this rich , thought cams would actually make the car much leaner than it is , right now the car is just drinking gas down so bad if i just idle and watch the gas needle you can see if moving after a min or so

need to get this thing tuned soon or it gonna run me the cams install and price soon in gas

Pearl02 · Oct 12, 2008

It's running way to rich and needs to be tuned. Pearl02.

CobraRed_96_GT · Oct 12, 2008

kuwait said:
is the car suppose to be this rich , thought cams would actually make the car much leaner than it is , right now the car is just drinking gas down so bad if i just idle and watch the gas needle you can see if moving after a min or so

need to get this thing tuned soon or it gonna run me the cams install and price soon in gas

Yes it will run rich - especially at idle. Even tuned (which mine is and still is being) it will smell more like gas due to valve overlap expelling more unburnt fuel particles out the exhaust, this isn't really importnant as you're not trying to make power at idle anyways - lol.

Stark77 · Oct 13, 2008

how much was labor on your install?

kuwait · Oct 13, 2008

Stark77 said:
how much was labor on your install?

well , its done by a reputable garage so it ran me $250.

kuwait · Oct 13, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
Yes it will run rich - especially at idle. Even tuned (which mine is and still is being) it will smell more like gas due to valve overlap expelling more unburnt fuel particles out the exhaust, this isn't really importnant as you're not trying to make power at idle anyways - lol.

time to hook up a coil and a spark plug to the tail pipes?

Stark77 · Oct 13, 2008

$250.00 for cam install sounds like a bargain to me - one shop around here quoted me at $400.

kuwait · Oct 13, 2008

Stark77 said:
$250.00 for cam install sounds like a bargain to me - one shop around here quoted me at $400.

ask around , i am sure you can get a offer for half the price , the guy said he would install my patriot heads , gears and pullies for $300 so i am saving up for the next modding round

mazen189 · Oct 13, 2008

haha, was that a rooster i heard in the background of your vid?

you speak arabic mang?

kuwait · Oct 13, 2008

mazen189 said:
haha, was that a rooster i heard in the background of your vid?

you speak arabic mang?

yeah , i do , and the roaster is our neighbors , and he is a loud fella

CobraRed_96_GT · Oct 13, 2008

And the stalling is semi-normal as well. I've killed it going into reverse or 1st when its cold - a pretty funny thing to do in an auto.

Notchbck93 · Oct 13, 2008

I guess I'm a believer in the PMS. Your cam may sound more aggressive than it actually is; my lil 534 lift cam use to cackle something crazy when it ran fat with the 42lbs squirters, until I tuned it myself. Now, once she's warm, you can hardly tell she's cammin.

kuwait · Oct 13, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
And the stalling is semi-normal as well. I've killed it going into reverse or 1st when its cold - a pretty funny thing to do in an auto.

i seem to only kill it on reverse , but now i am getting the use of it and just rev it before it dies , and yea ill get it tuned and dyno'ed as soon the paycheck hits

kuwait · Oct 13, 2008

Notchbck93 said:
I guess I'm a believer in the PMS. Your cam may sound more aggressive than it actually is; my lil 534 lift cam use to cackle something crazy when it ran fat with the 42lbs squirters, until I tuned it myself. Now, once she's warm, you can hardly tell she's cammin.

out of curiosity , how do you tune a idle of a cammed car? what do you need to adjust?

CobraRed_96_GT · Oct 13, 2008

kuwait said:
out of curiosity , how do you tune a idle of a cammed car? what do you need to adjust?

idle rpm - it's a really simple adjustment. If i'm not mistaken i remember mine being 850 or 900. Stock is like 500/550 which leaves the cam constantly almost dying depending on how drastic the cam is.

My rev limiter is set to 6500 too I have a camera pic taken by my friend while data logging of it at 6450 - but dont know how to upload it to online from my phone.

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