cobra or typhoon

[Bolt on 5.0]

Ive done searching and havent been able to find what im looking for. What I want to know is, Cobra or typhoon intake? I am looking to buy one of these. I def plan on supercharging this one, not crazy but starting with 6 lbs and working my way to right around 10 lbs probably.

I want to plan this one out before I throw parts at it. I want the car to be streetable and fun so I would like to get a lower rpm intake . I see they both perform in the same range, is either going to max out before the other. My ultimate goal is to put down 450 hp to the ground.

 

[onequicklx]

I actually was considering both as well. I have a Cobra intake and was thinking about trading for a Typhoon, but I have decided to keep the Cobra. I did my research on both and decided that I didn't want to deal with possible fitment issues that have plagued people using the Typhoon intake. If you plan on supercharging (as I plan to do this winter) you will probably want to consider having the intake ported.

 

[the pony boy]

if you can find a cobra intake made in the usa go for the cobra.if you cant than i would ust go for the better deal. phil

 

[Foxfan88]

the typhoon will move more air.

i use one and have had good luck with it.
the intake is cheap and you can definatly tell, the casting isnt the best quality and you can just tell its not as good as the edelbrock piece.

i didnt have any problems bolting it on, but i did run into contact issues with my distributor. most intakes for 5 liters have a little dimple in the intake near the thermostat... to clear the corner of the TFI module, the typhoon doesnt have it so i had to grind down the corner of my TFI module. I also ran into issues with the back of the dizzy hitting the intake, i had a grind a small park down so it would sit down all the way. thats the only problems i had.

most people say they have alot of casting flash that needs to be cleaned up. i got mine used and it was already smoothed up and stuff so i havent seen an untouched typhoon. clean the ports up if it needs it and you have a good flowing intake for half the price.

lot of people use them with great sucess, they are crappier quality but not horrible... mine is pretty old maybe they upped their standards a bit lol

 

[Bolt on 5.0]

Ok I would rather just buy the edelbrock performer for the extra cash if the typhoon is a junk piece.

I have seen the complaints of passing oil with the chinease cobras, but have also heard there has been a fix? I really like the looks of the cobra, but they both look nice. I want to go for the best stuff and not worry about the cost. Thanks for the advice, any more info?

 

[NIKwoaC]

If you're considering a Cobra, your best bet is to find a used one on ebay. Not only will you save money, but you'll get ahold of an American one, rather than a Chinese one, because the Chinese ones are known for poor quality and fitment. You should also consider finding an old Explorer piece, they have the same internal geometry, and flow just like the Cobra, but you'll probably need to do some cleanup work on the Explorer since it'll be off a junk yard truck.

 

[Bolt on 5.0]

OK heres a good one. If the Typhoon is a copy of the performer intake, why does Profesional Products advertise the Typhoon intake in the 1500-6500 range and Edelbrock advertises the Performer in the idle to 5500 rpm range????

 

[GreatWhite]

Consider the budget Cobra route... The Explorer GT40 intakes flow almost identically as the 93 Cobra but you can often get them for a lot cheaper. There's a sticky on this. I combined a 93 Cobra lower with an Explorer upper and have had great success. Get everything all cleaned up and give it a quick shot of fresh paint and everything looks great.

 

[DMAN302]

I've had the Eddy RPM and now the typhoon....both were problem free for me...neither required flash clean up....both made the same power on the dyno....Typhoon was polished and more in 'theme' with my current underhood parts.

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

OK heres a good one. If the Typhoon is a copy of the performer intake, why does Profesional Products advertise the Typhoon intake in the 1500-6500 range and Edelbrock advertises the Performer in the idle to 5500 rpm range????

It's a copy of the Performer RPM, hence the 1500-6500 RPM range on it.

To answer the original question, how fast are you planning on turning the engine. The Performer would be comparable to the Cobra in terms of RPM, whereas the RPM/Typhoon are better suited to higher RPM, or larger CID applications. You'll have more low-end torque with the regular Performer or Cobra than with the RPM/Typhoon. In a boosted application, the shorter runners will be fine and the difference would likely be negligible. Personally, I'm going to boost my Typhoon/TFS head combo.

 

[Bolt on 5.0]

The car is a street car, I would like to make a few passes at the track but once in a blue moon. I would say that I will likely shift below 6000 rpms, I do not want to lose the lower end. From what I have gathered so far I should be able to run a ported lower cobra intake with stock upper, with boost and good flowing heads and put down my goal hp of 450-500.

I would love the engine to be able to rev to 6500 but I dont want to lose that low rpm torque. On another note, my old 89 had the Holley system max on it 2000-6500 rpm band and it was not fun around town, no torque at all.

 

[Foxfan88]

i wouldnt make it a high revving engine, takes the fun out of it on the street.
i would rather have a mild HCI car that makes good midrange torque and power over a super big head, radical cam, super short runner manifold... that makes all its power up in the RPMs. sure it may make more power but only when its turning the RPM, where the little mild HCI will take the win at the stoplight, because it can get the car moving faster due to more low end torque and power. some people may say to just throw a low gear in the high rpm car, but once again that takes away from the streetablity of the car.

IMO the midrange is where it's at for a street car. thats why terminator cobras and lightnings and etc run like raped apes, their PD blowers pretty much make full boost off idle and that means gobs of low end torque and power.

a friend of mine has a lightning, with a few mods nothing major, probably a 13 sec pickup or so. not super fast in that aspect but the car runs like an animal on the street, from a 5 mph roll the car will sit you in the seat and i will almost bet it will smoke almost any car it comes up to on the street. like my car, i know mines making more peak power and will run quicker at the track, but mine has a vortech and does make its good power till up in the higher rpms, still pulls great in the midrange but it wont start running hard until 4500+ where its making almost full boost, where the lightning will haev full boost instantly and probably toast my car from stoplight to stoplight.

to me its not about max power its about where you have the power. for example i love my car now and all that, but i miss the old bolt on stock engine days, the car was only in the high 13s or so you know but it had USABLE power in the low and midrange and would run pretty hard on the street. where now its hard to keep the tires to hold on the street.


sorry for straying off i just get carried away...

 

[Bolt on 5.0]

thanks for the info fox fan. I see you car has alot of upgrades in the direction I would like to go. So what better way to go than to ask you, with your head, cam setup the car is not that street friendly with that typhoon intake?

The plan are along your lines, trickflow, or afr 165 heads, mild cam, intake and supercharger at 8-10. Thats the ultimate goal I am aiming for. 450 hp to the ground and hopfully 11.5's in the quarter.

I think I am going to go with a ported cobra or the regular performer intake, just trying to weed out the higher rev intakes still.

 

[Foxfan88]

thanks for the info fox fan. I see you car has alot of upgrades in the direction I would like to go. So what better way to go than to ask you, with your head, cam setup the car is not that street friendly with that typhoon intake?

The plan are along your lines, trickflow, or afr 165 heads, mild cam, intake and supercharger at 8-10. Thats the ultimate goal I am aiming for. 450 hp to the ground and hopfully 11.5's in the quarter.

I think I am going to go with a ported cobra or the regular performer intake, just trying to weed out the higher rev intakes still.

no not at all the typhoon works great for the street.

i used to run thumper e7s and a tmoss lower
i swapped my typhoon on and took the tmoss off.
i did notice a slight low end loss with the typhoon, but it did pick up some power up top, seemed to pull harder once i get 3500+. the low end loss wasnt much just down low in the 2-3k range it didnt have quite the power it had with the ported stock intake. but as far as driving the car, it drives great. now that i have my blower it makes some boost in the midrange and just all around runs harder, but runs it best up higher since i only get alot of boost up high, just the way a centrifugal SC works.

i was just talking generally. when i think high revving intakes i think TFS R manifolds, box upper manifolds and vic jr intakes. those are what i consider higher rpm manifolds. the performer and performer RPM are great street intakes. just depends on what heads and cam your running. I think the regular performer intake is best suited for a ported stock/gt-40, mild cam application. and the RPM is better suited for TFS, AFR heads that are moving more air, and little more radical cam (2000-6000 range)

if your going to run a blower, i'd get the perf RPM.... ( which is same as typhoon) but if i had the cash set aside for an intake i wouldnt mind grabbing the actual edelbrock intake, the typhoon works great just the quality isnt as good as the actual edelbrock. get the good quality intake and be done with it lol.

i have the same goals pretty much with my setup
was running thumper e7s and b-cam with 6 psi and went 12.1@113
i stepped up to 9 psi and started having traction issues with old tires and ended up blowing a HG the same day, but did get a mph increase running 115 mph, with a solid pass i think i would have got a high high 11.

this year i swapped out the thumpers for TFS TW heads, and f-cam, same intake and it runs ALOT quicker, boost dropped to 7 psi, added a blower pulley and its making 10 psi as far as i have seen. havent really got to wind it up to 6k like normal, its breaking up real bad in the high rpms, still running stock ignition and i think thats the problem.
this weekend i moved my battery to the back and putting an ign box on and hoping i can get it to run better at high rpms... it pulls like a mother and then hits 5k or so and starts breaking up, so hopefully the spark will fix it (i think it will) the way i see it the air/fuel mix is getting so dense the stock ignition cant mangage to jump the gap, and i am even running .025 gap now, semmed to help over the larger gaps but not good enough.

anyways i am hoping for mid 11s at least the car sure feels like it will.

with the centri blower there is a big difference b/w the low end and top end.
the low end still pulls great and is good usable steet power but once i get 7+ psi the car comes alive and runs alot better.
i am toying with the idea of a turbo project on my car sometime. i would like to have to 10+ psi of boost through my whole powerband instead of 5k+ lol
then it will just fry tires becasue it does now once it gets into the boost.

 

[Bolt on 5.0]

Fox thanks for the in depth reply. You are running a very similar setup that I am looking to run. I would not be happy runnng ported stoc heads or intake, just wont put me were I want to be. Im John by the way, I am going to try to frequent the boards more often. I have noticed you have quite a few post on here. I read alot on here just dont post too often. Thanks agina guys.

 

[1990Coupe]

thanks for the info fox fan. I see you car has alot of upgrades in the direction I would like to go. So what better way to go than to ask you, with your head, cam setup the car is not that street friendly with that typhoon intake?

The plan are along your lines, trickflow, or afr 165 heads, mild cam, intake and supercharger at 8-10. Thats the ultimate goal I am aiming for. 450 hp to the ground and hopfully 11.5's in the quarter.

I think I am going to go with a ported cobra or the regular performer intake, just trying to weed out the higher rev intakes still.

You should talk to 25thmustang..

He has stock cam, cobra intake, and Stock gt40 heads with bigger valves and he's running 12.5's.. thats less then 300hp to the rear tire no doubt

 

[mavmavv]

Dont mean to thread jack, but I just picked up a Typhoon intake.

Will GT40s be enough head for that intake?

 

[Metalcop]

BUY AMERICAN!!!

Not to be too political, but one of the main reasons that we are paying so much for gasoline is that world (read: China) demand has gone up. I don't buy anything Chinese made, if I can help it. Certainly not a crappy Chinese knock off of an Edelbrock American made product!

 

[Foxfan88]

Dont mean to thread jack, but I just picked up a Typhoon intake.

Will GT40s be enough head for that intake?

yes, i ran ported e7s with my typhoon and seemed to run good.

 

[mavmavv]

yes, i ran ported e7s with my typhoon and seemed to run good.

Well, this is 100% a street car, im seriously considering going with an explorer instead.