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Code 181: HISSIN50, I need you in here!

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Got a CEL the other day. Pulled the codes and got code 181: Fuel system at rich adaptive limit at partial throttle / system lean. I thought at first it meant I was rich (didn't read it very carefully) but now I understand I am running lean. HISSIN50 said check sensors, if some are out of spec then they will cause problems, but not trip their own code. Okay then, what sensors should I be checking? O2? IAC? MAF? Suggestions?
 

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CManT1914 said:
Got a CEL the other day. Pulled the codes and got code 181: Fuel system at rich adaptive limit at partial throttle / system lean. I thought at first it meant I was rich (didn't read it very carefully) but now I understand I am running lean. HISSIN50 said check sensors, if some are out of spec then they will cause problems, but not trip their own code. Okay then, what sensors should I be checking? O2? IAC? MAF? Suggestions?
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Hey Chris. I sorta got your back - I posted on the earlier thread on the SN side before i saw this now.

if you want to check some sensors, here is a post by Jrichker with values for the thermistors i mentioned on the other thread.

I bet Joe, et al, have more/better ideas for ya too. good luck.

Edit: I am not sure if the values are the same for the 94-95's and foxes - i see no reason why they would not be. but the computer pins will be different, so i might disregard that part of Joe's post (it is for foxes).

good luck.
 

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See http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1d/db/3c/0900823d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-98 wiring diagrams for the wiring & pin connections for these tests.

Check & clean MAF:
There are three parts in a MAF: the heater, the sensor element and the amplifier. The heater heats the MAF sensor element causing the resistance to increase. The amplifier buffers the MAF output signal and has a resistor that is laser trimmed to provide an output range compatible with the computer's load tables.

The MAF element is secured by 2 screws & has 1 wiring connector. To clean the element, remove it from the MAF housing and spray it down with electronic parts cleaner or non-inflammable brake parts cleaner (same stuff in a bigger can and cheaper too).

The MAF output varies with RPM which causes the airflow to increase or decease. The increase of air across the MAF sensor element causes it to cool, allowing more voltage to pass and telling the computer to increase the fuel flow. A decrease in airflow causes the MAF sensor element to get warmer, decreasing the voltage and reducing the fuel flow. Measure the MAF output at pins C & D on the MAF connector (dark blue/orange and tan/light blue) or at pins 50 & 9 on the computer.

At idle = approximately .6 volt
20 MPH = approximately 1.10 volt
40 MPH = approximately 1.70 volt
60 MPH = approximately 2.10 volt

Check the resistance of the MAF signal wiring. Pin D on the MAF and pin 50 on the computer (dark blue/orange wire) should be less than 2 ohms. Pin C on the MAF and pin 9 on the computer (tan/light blue wire) should be less than 2 ohms.

There should be a minimum of 10K ohms between either pin C or D on the MAF and ground.

Check ECT & ACT:
Check the resistance of the black/white wire to battery ground. If it is less than 1 ohm, it is good. If it is more than 1 ohm, the black/white wire has bad connections or a broken wire. Always take resistance measurements with the circuit powered off.

Then check the resistance of the ACT sender located in the #5 intake runner on most 5.0 stangs.

ACT & ECT test data:

The ACT & ECT have the same thermistor, so the table values are the same

Pin 7 on the computer - ECT signal in. at 176 degrees F it should be .80 volts

Pin 25 on the computer - ACT signal in. at 50 degrees F it should be 3.5 volts. It is a good number if the ACT is mounted in the inlet airbox. If it is mounted in the lower intake manifold, the voltage readings will be lower because of the heat transfer. Here's the table :

68 degrees F = 3.02 v
86 degrees F = 2.62 v
104 degrees F = 2.16 v
122 degrees F = 1.72 v
140 degrees F = 1.35 v
158 degrees F = 1.04 v
176 degrees F = .80 v
194 degrees F = .61

Ohms measures at the computer with the computer disconnected, or at the sensor with the sensor disconnected.
50 degrees F = 58.75 K ohms
68 degrees F = 37.30 K ohms
86 degrees F = 27.27 K ohms
104 degrees F = 16.15 K ohms
122 degrees F = 10.97 K ohms
140 degrees F = 7.60 K ohms
158 degrees F = 5.37 K ohms
176 degrees F = 3.84 K ohms
194 degrees F = 2.80 K ohms
 
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Start with the basics. Check fuel pressure and volume. How's your fuel filter? That code means that the the computer made it as rich as possible, and it still shows lean. I'd take a good look at the o2 sensors as well, since this is where the readings come from, but start with the basics.
 
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