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Hey again, well I finally got out of my slump to try and tackle the car problem again, tried pulling the codes from the car again with my code reader. However it will not pick up a damn thing its almost like its not connecting at all with the computer.

All it will display is 000 after turning on, and pressing the test button. I checked the connections cleaned them up made sure I put them on the reader correctly, it was able to pull codes a week or so ago but nothing else has changed since that time.

This is the type of code reader i have.
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx
 

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Computer will not go into diagnostic mode on 91-93 model 5.0 Mustangs

How it is supposed to work:
The grey/red wire (pin 46) is signal ground for the computer. It provides a dedicated
ground for the EGR, Baro, ACT, ECT, & TPS sensors as well as the ground to put the
computer into self test mode. If this ground is bad, none of the sensors mentioned will work
properly. That will severely affect the car's performance. You will have hard starting, low power
and drivability problems.
Since it is a dedicated ground, it passes through the computer on its
way to the computer main power ground that terminates at the battery pigtail ground. It should
read less than 1.5 ohms when measured from anyplace on the engine harness with the battery
pigtail ground as the other reference point for the ohmmeter probe.

What sometimes happens is that the test connector grey/red wire gets jumpered to power
which either burns up the wiring or burns the trace off the pc board inside the computer.
That trace connects pins 46 to pins 40 & 60. Only an experienced electronics technician can open
the computer up & repair the trace if it burns up and creates an open circuit.

The STI (Self Test Input ) is jumpered to ground to put the computer into test mode. Jumpering
it to power can produce unknown results, including damage to the computer. The ohm test
simply verifies that there are no breaks in the wiring between the test connector and the computer input.

How to test the wiring :
With the power off, measure the resistance between the computer test ground
(grey/red wire) on the self test connector and battery ground. You should see less than
1.5 ohms.



If that check fails, remove the passenger side kick panel and disconnect the computer
connector. There is a 10 MM bolt that holds it in place. Measure the resistance between
the grey/red wire and pin 46 on the computer wiring connector : it should be less than
1.5 ohms. More that 1.5 ohms is a wiring problem. If it reads 1.5 ohms or less, then
the computer is suspect. On the computer, measure the resistance between pin 46
and pins 40 & 60: it should be less than 1.5 ohms. More that that and the computer’s
internal ground has failed, and the computer needs to be replaced.

If the first ground check was good, there are other wires to check. Measure the
resistance between the STI computer self test connector (red/white wire) and pin 48 on
the computer main connector: it should be less than 1.5 ohms. More that 1.5 ohms is a
wiring problem

The following is a view from the computer side of the computer connector.


Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds

Check out the diagram and notice all the places the grey/red wire goes. Almost every
sensor on the engine except the MAF is connected to it.


See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds
(website host) for help on 88-95 wiring http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine

 

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Hmmm why I look at the pin configration for the computer my computer does not match up to it. Everything is reversed.
 

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slow5.0gt said:
Hmmm why I look at the pin configration for the computer my computer does not match up to it. Everything is reversed.
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Are you looking at the wire side or the computer side? The diagram is for the computer side.
 

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jrichker said:
disconnect the computer
connector. There is a 10 MM bolt that holds it in place. Measure the resistance between
the grey/red wire and pin 46: QUOTE]

Sorry was looking at it wrong, but another question, when you disconnect the computer like it says here do you connect one point to the computer connector then the other point to the pin 46 on the computer itself?
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sorry as you can tell my weakspot is electrical
 

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The idea is to check for breaks and damage between Point A and Point B. Point A is pin 46 on the computer wiring connector and Point B is the grey/red wire on the self test connector. If it is open circuited (broken wire or bad connection) the computer will not go into diagnostic mode.
 
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