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MsCammed01GT

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The only reason I would go with Pro Dyno is because they seem to specialize in Ford - there is a shop over by me but they seem to deal with Chevy mostly. The prices are pretty much the same too. My boyfriend mentioned that he had come to a halt, he said we will have to order the adjustable crank gears. Where would I find some for a good price and good quality?
 

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sneaky98gt said:
Like I said, I wouldn't worry too much about the numbers. A couple clicks of the mouse can easily change the numbers by 6-8%. The real test is how it drives (idle quality, part throttle characteristics, fuel mileage, etc.) and how it runs at the track.

Yes, I'm currently in Raleigh. I've never been there, but I have several friends who have had their cars tuned by Dan at Pro Dyno. I haven't heard any complaints. The only thing I've noticed with him is that his numbers are STD corrected (vs. SAE), and STD reads about 4% higher than SAE. Not a big deal, but a little pet peave of mine when tuners use that to make it look like the car is making more power than it actually is.
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This is the one we ordered actually! http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51800505/applications/
 

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sneaky98gt said:
Holy smokes, Squeak! Haven't seen you around these parts in ages! Good to see you around.

As to the OP, the cams absolutely need to be degreed in. I used to be of the opinion that it wasn't that important, but after I put my cams in and they were off by SIX degrees, I realized just how important it was. Mine were 6 degrees retarded, which wouldn't have hurt anything other than power, but if they happened to have been 6 degrees advanced and I installed them straight up (i.e. without degreeing), I'd likely be pulling everything back apart to fix the broken valves....

With enough time and patience, and the right tools, I think most anyone that is somewhat mechanically inclined can degree in cams. It's not a very technically challenging task, just one that takes some attention to detail. However, I'd echo Squeak's comments that it may not be the best idea for someone to try on their first time even having the valve covers off. I'd opt to pay someone else to do it in that case.

The TFS adjustable crank gears are by far the easiest and best way to degree the cams in. Don't use the adjustable cam gears.

I believe that a tune is required to get the most out of a set of cams. No major changes are needed for a mild cam, but there are some small things I'd adjust if it were my car. Idle quality, part throttle responsiveness, fuel mileage, and overall power output will suffer if the tune isn't tweaked a bit.
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I've been lurking around off and on over the years. I keep busy and only try to post when I've got useful info that could help others.

Op, good luck and keep us updated of power gains and sotp feel once the cams are in.

FWIW, we put hitec stage 1 cams in a pi swapped 98 GT and it did not want to idle without a tune. Those are baby cams compared to what most guys are running.
 
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Thank yall for all the input!
 

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I forgot to answer your question earlier about the adjustable cam gears. These are the ones you need: http://www.modularheadshop.com/TFS-51800515.aspx

Although they are more expensive than I remember them being.
 

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Oh we bought those last week actually, just waiting for their arrival
 

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MsCammed01GT said:
Well looks like I will be putting 275 on the tires instead of the 305 in the rear - but 290 is still good! Luckily I already bought my SCT tuner. You are from NC correct? Have you ever been to Pro Dyno?
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Definitely wouldnt be worried about the dyno #s as much as the track times and drivability. Every dyno is different. My car has seen a 80hp variance between two different dynos. How did the install go?
 
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Modular2v said:
Definitely wouldnt be worried about the dyno #s as much as the track times and drivability. Every dyno is different. My car has seen a 80hp variance between two different dynos. How did the install go?
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Well i have the cams in now, but the previous owner didn't take very good care of the car and I have a bad fuel pump so I'm having that replaced also. I found the time slip from the previous owner and the car ran a 8.93 in 1/8th reaction time is .009
 

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MsCammed01GT said:
Well i have the cams in now, but the previous owner didn't take very good care of the car and I have a bad fuel pump so I'm having that replaced also. I found the time slip from the previous owner and the car ran a 8.93 in 1/8th reaction time is .009
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Keep in mind the reaction time in NO way reflects the ET. Reaction time really only matters in bracket racing or true heads up racing. What was the 60ft? Final Trap MPH?
 
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Okay guys - new cams are in - had some kind of trouble with the air/fuel ratio but we got it fixed.
 

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MsCammed01GT said:
Okay guys - new cams are in - had some kind of trouble with the air/fuel ratio but we got it fixed.
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You get it tuned? Have the graph?
 
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Modular2v said:
You get it tuned? Have the graph?
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No I haven't had it tuned yet - I am taking it next month to Pro Dyno. I am trying to figure out how to post a video on here but I can't seem to find it. Any help lol?
 

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I've always posted it to youtube and thrown up a link in here! When you get it on the dyno and tuned, they SHOULD be able to hammer out all your air/fuel issues
 
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Okay here ya go!!! View: http://youtu.be/bpzwya2kqds
 

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Sorry for the crappy quality!
 

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ahhh! It says the video does not exist!
 

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ahhh man well you can go check it out on my youtube or instagram --
Youtube: Victoria M
Instagram: blown04sb_cammed01gt
 

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Modular2v said:
ahhh! It says the video does not exist!
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2001 Mustang GT: View: http://youtu.be/m8tmENXF8rk
 

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Tahhhhdahhhhh
 

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Sounds Good! Make sure to get some video on the dyno and post the graph!
 
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