compression equals power, sooo

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so my engine is a 4.6 4v with a GT40 turbo at 8 psi... I used to be making 470 hp and 490 lbs of tq... but that was at stock compression. I had Tim lower the compression to right around 9.0:1 so do any of you engine Guru's that lurk around stangnet have any guess as to how much power I will lose with a lower compression at the same psi?

 

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what is stock cobra compression?

That means you can turn the boost up..

 

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I expect you might lose 15-20 hp. Compression makes power, but low compression and high boost makes a lot more power than low boost and high compression...

 

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with the same boost I would estimate

new power = (original comp ratio / new comp ratio) * old power.

 

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make that new / old lol DOH!

 

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Route666 said:

make that new / old lol DOH!

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there is no way that can be right????? Thats saying its dropping hime down to around 430 or so hp. Isnt the cobra's compression like 9.8:1?? If it is and your dropping down to 9.0 then you might lose about 15 or so at most. Not 40 or so hp like that equation was giving you.

 

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same timing? or is that the trick question part you are going for .

 

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I do plan on turning the boost back up so that I run back around 500 hp, but... not until I can get a new dyno tune and chip burned... I'll post more after I get home tonight... like the current a/f ratios

 

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what about timing

 

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Route666 said:

with the same boost I would estimate

new power = (original comp ratio / new comp ratio) * old power.

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I'm not saying this to be insulting, but that is a blatant guess and wrong to boot. There are some pretty fundamental physical laws that can be expressed as ratios, but this is a much more complicated system than that. Desktop Dyno would not be a very powerful tool if we could use systems like the one above and a simple calculator.

 

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there is no way that can be right????? Thats saying its dropping hime down to around 430 or so hp. Isnt the cobra's compression like 9.8:1?? If it is and your dropping down to 9.0 then you might lose about 15 or so at most. Not 40 or so hp like that equation was giving you.

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Yeh, it works for na more, with a turbo the cylinder would fill easier, so you would get a little more in, so it wouldn't drop quite so much, I agree. It was just a roughstimate.

 

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same timing, and whats the compression ratio in the new 03 cobra's?

 

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same timing, and whats the compression ratio in the new 03 cobra's?

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8.5:1

I vote you lose 8 RWHP all across the board @ same timing, same boost, etc.

 

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8? wow, thats an optimistic guess, I hope your right on the money... Whats the stock 03 cobra run as far as psi? I'm trying to figure out how much boost I can run in the future...