yes those numbers are rated at the wheels, not the crank. my stock srt4 (neon) dyno'd 230 at the wheels while my heavier stock '02 gt dyno'd 220 to the wheels. will be going stage 4 soon and am expecting 400+ whp no problem. looking at roughly the same kit price for the stage 4 as what i paid for my kenne bell kit on the mustang, but with the srt being several hundred pounds lighter i expect it to be pretty quick. and why would a 4cyl neon have to be "N/A" 230 whp/260-270 crank hp to be something "special" when my '02 N/A mustang was only rated at 220 whp/260 crank hp?