densecharger opinions wanted

its great I have it on my car & got one for my Dads GT along with the C&L intake & Roush T body


his car

my car

I have the full length system, which replaced a drop in K&N with the silencer removed. I didn't realy notice a difference and most people say that there are too many 90 degree bends in the system for it to be effective, but I can grab the the intake right after I turn the engine off from driving and it is not hot.

I have one as well. I don't have the inlet tube as I also have a Steeda Tower Brace Bar and it won't fit. I guess any gains are prolly minimal at best. It looks good and adds a nice touch to your car's engine bay.

I don't know if the people who has one on their car really put the car on the dyno before and after but I did and the result was not good at all.


I put my car on the dyno ( Mustang Dyno ) so my car makes , 227.9 rwhp and 322.3 ft-lbs torque.

I put the dense charger reset battery etc. I get on the dyno , 225.3 rwhp and 321.3 not a big lost but the A/Fuel curve gets all screwed up cause of the Elbows .





Over that if you guys look at it carefully where the kit bolts to the MAFlow adaptor there is a big lip like the Dense charger adaptor is ( guessing ) 4 1/2" inside diameters and where it bolts it's like 4" so you get this big lip blocking the air flow and doing more turbulence , so elbows + this = very bad A/Fuel reading so this was where my lost came from .

Look here , I even had to port the Densecharger adaptor to make it smoother.



So what I learned from this is : The filter has to be as close as possible of the Mass air sensor and in straight lines ( like the factory ) to get the max from it.

I kept the tubing from the Throttle body to the MAF and bolted the filter right there. That way I got my numbers back and the fuel curve became nice and smooth.




I don't want to start a pissing contest but this is what I got from this modification.

I was like you , reading ( searching ) on Stangnet what people were saying about it and I thought : What about buying one and get it dynoed just to see what will be my gain. I was very dissapointed.

It does make me laugh when I read that someone put one on his car and he can feel the difference , common guys , even if the guy got 3 rwhp from a mod , how the heck can he feel the difference on a 3600 LBS car..

Maybe someone will have a different opinion with some dyno sheets to show us what it did to his ( her ) car.

I have more stories like that ( pulleys , chip , etc. ) always ( most of the time ) you have to cut in half what you read in the magazine ( horspowerwise )..

excellent point mcpv! any pix of the entire engine bay??

i got 6rwhp from my setup

I might take mine off because my car has been extremely rich after I put that ont there.

"I kept the tubing from the Throttle body to the MAF and bolted the filter right there. That way I got my numbers back and the fuel curve became nice and smooth."

If you don't mind me asking is that the filter you got with the kit? I have been thinking of doing this with my system cause I recently had my car on a dyno and was not happy with the baseline.

pony_vert02 said:

excellent point mcpv! any pix of the entire engine bay??

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Laser98 said:

If you don't mind me asking is that the filter you got with the kit? I have been thinking of doing this with my system cause I recently had my car on a dyno and was not happy with the baseline.

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No it did not fit, if I remember , you'll need a 4 1/2" inside diameter filter to bolt to the Densecharger adaptor.

turboscrew said:

If you dyno right after the install the car will be too lean and will retard the timing causing the drop in hp.

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Mine became too rich...

turboscrew said:

He also said that if you use the stock mass air to turn the filter in the down position so it will have 2 turns to calm the turbulence down.

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This was exactly what I did !

For the same price you should buy some pullies .

I went from 223.9 rwhp to 227.9 rwhp and 303.2 ft-lbs torque to 323.3 ft-lbs torque so it was a gain of 4 rwhp & 20.1 ft-lbs torque , again it was dynoed before and after.

Another good mod is a custom tuned chip but this is a bit more money.

In case if you want to know I went from : 217.1 to 223.9 rwhp and 278.7 to 303.2 ft-lbs torque so a gain of 6.8 rwhp & 24.5 ft-lbs torque.

Don't forget that a Mustang dyno shows slightly different numbers then a Dyno jet !



Here's my Dynojet numbers !

245.6 rwhp & 286.8 ft-lbs torque N/A SAE on a Dynojet = 227.9 rwhp & 323.3 ft-lbs torque N/A SAE on a Mustang Dyno .

Funny to see how off they are...

turboscrew said:

I have an 02 GT so that may make a difference. Ford changed to a bigger mass air in 02. That may be why you didn't much gain.

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Maybe !