Do stock 289 Oil pans have any baffles?

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68conv4sp

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Also, how does one change the pickup tube? Again, Thanks.

 

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No baffles in the original pan, not sure since my stroker came with the pan installed, but I think the pickup bolts to the oil pump.

 

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Yes, most pickups bolt to oil pam and can be swapped.

 

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OK. So if i get a stock sized pan (Milodon) with a few horizontal baffles, it should be better than the uncontrolled slosh in the stocker. i really want to solve the ticking issue at the end of a hard autocross lap.

 

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You might look at the milodon with the kicked out sides... stock depth, but it holds a few more qt's of oil.

 

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It be cheaper to get a boss 302 windage tray off ebay usually around 30.00-35.00 dollars and is good for 5-10 horsepower increase.
Ford claims alot more like 20-25 h.p but I doubt it. Bolts right up to a 289 and works with the stock oil pan.

 

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strange65 said:

It be cheaper to get a boss 302 windage tray off ebay usually around 30.00-35.00 dollars and is good for 5-10 horsepower increase.
Ford claims alot more like 20-25 h.p but I doubt it. Bolts right up to a 289 and works with the stock oil pan.

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Make sure the bolts are included it takes special bolts.
Here's what it look's like http://www.nthcoast.com/Products/FordPerformance/FordRacing/WindageTray.htm

 

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68conv4sp

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Two dumb, related questions: What does the windage tray bolt to? and how does it control oil slosh in the sump?

 

Dark Knight

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Windage tray doesnt control slosh, it keeps oil from splashing onto or being whipped up by the crank. You replace the main cap bolts with studs and it mounts to those.
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/windage_trays/windage_trays.html

 

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Dark Knight said:

Windage tray doesnt control slosh, it keeps oil from splashing onto or being whipped up by the crank. You replace the main cap bolts with studs and it mounts to those.
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/windage_trays/windage_trays.html

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Thats partially correct, it also helps keep the oil in the sump.

"A windage tray keeps the windage around the crank from the oil in the sump area. It should allow the oil coming off the crank to easily enter the sump without the windage affecting the oil already in the sump. A good windage tray should also keep the oil in the sump from getting into the rotating assembly when the action of the vehicle is in motion."

Also if you use the Boss 302 windage tray it will not work with the Canton girdle

"Ford windage trays
Ford uses a front mounted oil pump which requires a long pickup tube to reach the rear sump. In most applications routing the pickup to the best location in the sump makes it difficult to build a good pan mounted windage tray because the pickup would have to pass through the tray and therefor leaves a large opening. Mounting the tray on the main caps allows the pickup to pass under the tray resulting in a more complete separation of the rotating assembly and the oil. This results in a much better setup."

That describe's the Boss302 windage try exactly.

Quote's are from From Cantons web page
http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/windage_trays/windage_trays.html

The Boss 302 windage tray will even work with the original 289 cobra oil pans.
They will not work with Branda's repops, as they were not true copy's. Its possible Branda has improved them by now.

 

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Yeah, but he was talking about autocrossing and the hard cornering moving the oil away from the pickup. Need pan baffles for that.
Are you running a stock oil pump or a high volumn?

 

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Stock oil pump with rpms not exceeding 4500 on the track, but lots of hard turns and accell/decell cycles.

 

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Is the removal of the main cap bolts to put in studs for the windage tray risk free for a novice mechanic?

 

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"Is the removal of the main cap bolts to put in studs for the windage tray risk free for a novice mechanic?"

Yes very easy to do, just re-torque the bolts to specs for your engine-almost fool proof.



"Yeah, but he was talking about autocrossing and the hard cornering moving the oil away from the pickup. Need pan baffles for that."
Are you running a stock oil pump or a high volumn?"


Dark knight is correct on the autocross, you would be better off with the pan baffles.

 

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If I were going to pull my pan because of oil starvation, I would not put a stock pan back on it. I don't like there pistons, but this is the cheapest baffled, windage tray, pick up combo I think you will find. http://www.coasthigh.com/Oil_Systems/oil_pans.htm#PAN Any one got any info on those? A good pan now is cheaper than trashing a motor and buying a new motor and a pan. Or one of these http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=4294925232+4294839075+115+4294851301