I'm not following. How many people actually "need" pickups? In socal they're everywhere, but usually very nice looking, with one or two people in the cab and nothing in the bed. Most of the pickup owners I see would be equally well served with a Honda Civic.Alec said:What I meant by the topic was; where is the R&D? A redone SUV!!!... that's what they come up with.. sheesh that's lame. People wonder why the Asians and Germans are beating us.
Oil is going up and the SUV market is toast.
People will always need a Pickup, but another luxury SUV.The hottest selling vehicles are hybrids not Nimitz-class size SUV's!! Ford and GM need to get with it.
I want Ford to livethey seem to be two steps behind.
Not sure how many people need a truck for work. That's kind of what I meant earlier - the majority of trucks I see are fashion items, rather than workhorses. I only know two people who own trucks - one's a mortgage broker, the other one works in an office for the phone co. No hauling of lumber/tools/masonry blocks.Alec said:Work..people need pickups for work.
Families don't need a Monster SUV, my dad hauled all 5 of us around in a 4 door Buick.A hybrid minivan would sell quite well.
I think this is a bad move by them, this thing won't sell. Gas is going up, people are making insane commutes and drivers will give up the gas guzzler before suburbia.
In my area people are trading these things in and going smaller.
Look at the ads Ford's running they are dumping SUVs cheap.
Like was said above this thing was probably in the works before high oil prices. A Diesel putting down some good numbers might sell, but the average joe still thinks diesels are noisy, stinky etc..
I have owned both types, with 5 kids a car with 45+ mpg is impossible. Even if u own hybrids the money you save in gas goes directly to the sticker. Long live the SUV. back in the day nobody cared if you wore seatbelts so you could make do with a 2 or 4 door.Alec said:So, do they really need to make the "Everest" AND the full size vans AND the pickups, AND the minivans AND midsize etc etc.. I think it's overkill with the truck stuff.
Free up those lines to make MORE cars! Some compacts that get 45+ mpg along with a sports car or two would be
But, whatever... heads in the sand, can't see the writing on the wall.
Alec said:In case you haven't noticed Ford is in deep ****. They aren't selling nearly enough products. Why is that?
What is with the personal attacks?
Mickey21 said:Ford is not doing as well, not in deep ****.... Because a company is no longer going to be #2 does not a company in crap make it. Yes, they arent doing as well, yes they could stand to be more competitive and do better, but one day away from gone is hardly the case either.
In most cases Ford is doing worse off by making some bad decisions and doing extremely poorly on the car standpoint. Not to mention the many aquisitions of other companies and the crowded SUV market. I just dont think this is one of those bad decisions at this point. Sure they may have to cut some jobs to resize their uses, but being too big for your market share is what that is all about.
As long as they figure out their market share and find out how to get more of it, or at least keep it from going down further... Time will tell...
Oh, and I completely agree with that too. Right behind the polished truck (which has never carried more than a case of beer in the bed), is the chick/dude in the suv, which will never carry more than 2 or 3 people at once. I actually know a LOT of people who drive them, but really don't need to.351CJ said:By the way I agree that 80% of the people driving around in big SUVs have NO need for them what so ever. They are more a fashion statement than anything else.
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