• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech

Exhaust Does Powder-coating Do The Same Thing As Ceramic-coating?(headers)

  • Thread starter Thread starter stangboy
  • Start date Start date Dec 12, 2013

stangboy

Founding Member
Aug 31, 1999
3,932
469
194
New Orleans, LA
Dec 12, 2013
#1
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #1
Hey guys I was wondering if powder-coating will serve the same function as ceramic coating on headers. When I bought my headers I couldn't afford the ceramic-coated ones so I bought the chrome ones. I know someone that works at a powder-coating shop that can give me a deal on powder-coating. If I get my headers powder-coated will it be just like if they were ceramic-coated? Will the powder-coating stand up to the heat and give as much protection as ceramic-coating? Will the powder-coating keep my under-hood temps down like ceramic-coating?
 

elarm1

10 Year Member
Dec 17, 2010
1,428
652
154
N.Va
Dec 12, 2013
#2
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #2
I heard it holds up great, but they do not fully cure until you get them on the car and run them for a while
 
Reactions: stangboy

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell
Mod Dude
Feb 18, 2001
43,166
17,860
224
Massachusetts
Dec 12, 2013
#3
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #3
Ceramic coating will tolerate heat much better than powdercoating.

No clue how well powdercoating will do, but in general, most exhaust headers and turbo housings are ceramic coated. Never heard of anyone powdercoating them
 

larrym1961

5 Year Member
Dec 18, 2010
570
36
49
Idaho Falls Id
Dec 12, 2013
#4
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #4
I was told by a powdercoat shop that chrome could not be powdercoated over, it will not stick.
 

larrym1961

5 Year Member
Dec 18, 2010
570
36
49
Idaho Falls Id
Dec 12, 2013
#5
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #5
I was told by a powdercoat shop that chrome could not be powdercoated over, it will not stick.
 

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell
Mod Dude
Feb 18, 2001
43,166
17,860
224
Massachusetts
Dec 12, 2013
#6
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #6
Usually, one would sandblast it to rough it up. Then it will stick well.
 

RacEoHolic330

I like to dress like a pretty girl
15 Year Member
Mar 4, 2003
4,014
1,698
203
Allentown, PA
Dec 12, 2013
#7
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #7
The only way powdercoating your headers will work is if the curing temp is greater than the operating temp. I doubt any standard powder cures higher than the exhaust temps at the header. I would be more inclined to spray the headers with some high temperature paint and bake it in the oven.
 
Reactions: f8tlfiveo, 7991LXnSHO and A5literMan

A5literMan

At least it is lumpy...
5 Year Member
Jul 30, 2011
4,674
2,343
194
Illinois
Dec 12, 2013
#8
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #8
^^^ paint n bake x2
 

stangboy

Founding Member
Aug 31, 1999
3,932
469
194
New Orleans, LA
Dec 12, 2013
#9
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #9
The shop says that they sandblast the parts before they coat them. As for painting them, I don't have an oven at my diposal to bake car parts in. I guess I'll try some other options.
 

mikestang63

SN Certified Technician
Aug 27, 2012
11,606
8,859
214
In the garage
Dec 12, 2013
#10
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #10
High heat parts like headers. exhaust, mufflers should be ceramic coated. Other parts like intakes, pulleys, etc. can be powdercoated. The regular powder coat will not withstand 500+ degrees that exhaust pieces throw off. Kind of like the cheap chrome that flakes off.
 
Reactions: stangboy

stangboy

Founding Member
Aug 31, 1999
3,932
469
194
New Orleans, LA
Dec 12, 2013
#11
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #11
I figured that, that's why I asked. Thanks guys.
 

mikestang63

SN Certified Technician
Aug 27, 2012
11,606
8,859
214
In the garage
Dec 12, 2013
#12
  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #12
stangboy said:
I figured that, that's why I asked. Thanks guys.
Click to expand...

You may want to give this a try.. VHT makes a pretty decent rattle can ceramic high temp coating. Ive used it on a few set of headers and it held up for years. Key is good prep- degrease, sand, prime, then do a few light coats and then a decent final coat. You can then either bake the parts or install them and then let the engine cycle a few times to cure. It won't be a real shiny surface, but a nice silver.



 
Reactions: A5literMan and stangboy

f8tlfiveo

My wife likes my spool and blow-off valve.
Aug 8, 2007
1,585
102
64
Lancaster, PA
Dec 15, 2013
#13
  • Dec 15, 2013
  • #13
You don't need an oven for the high temp paint. Paint them, put them on the car, run the car. They will smoke for a little, then cure.. I did it, worked pretty good, think I used the paint good for 2000*
 
C

CCPcoatings

New Member
Dec 12, 2013
1
0
2
Dec 15, 2013
#14
  • Dec 15, 2013
  • #14
stangboy said:
Hey guys I was wondering if powder-coating will serve the same function as ceramic coating on headers. When I bought my headers I couldn't afford the ceramic-coated ones so I bought the chrome ones. I know someone that works at a powder-coating shop that can give me a deal on powder-coating. If I get my headers powder-coated will it be just like if they were ceramic-coated? Will the powder-coating stand up to the heat and give as much protection as ceramic-coating? Will the powder-coating keep my under-hood temps down like ceramic-coating?
Click to expand...

Hello:

Not sure what you mean by “do the same thing” exactly, but either way powder coating has NO place on exhaust components, nor does chrome or nickel for that matter. In comparison, Ceramic Coating is a functional thermal barrier that limits the amount of heat that permeates the substrate it’s covering as well as dissipating heat from its surface faster than that of the raw substrate. It’s provides thermal protection in the range of 1100F -2000F+. It also provides corrosion protection and 1000’s aesthetic finishes.

Powder coating on the other hand is a durable, baked on painted finish that provides exceptional durability, corrosion and chemical resistance attributes. Although there are some LIMITED high temp powder coatings that can survive limited exposure in the 1000F - 1300F range, these are merely glorified BBQ paint like VHT or the like. They can survive certain temperatures but offer NO thermal barrier properties like a ceramic coating does. Traditional powder coating can only withstand about 250F - 350F. Further, despite what some high temp paints like that of VHT say, there is little to NO ceramic components in a $10.00 paint can. Coated properly they will provide a decent coated finish that looks better than rusty pipes, but again they do nothing to lower or control exhaust temps.

As for your chrome question, most chrome parts can be coated if its quality plating. In order to do so it must be profiled / blasted PROPERLY. Blasted too little and the coating will not stick. Blast too much or too aggressively and the chrome will bubble and peal relentlessly. Keep in mind that your ceramic coated or painted finish is only as good as the chrome foundation. Having your ceramic coating bond to the chrome surface means vary little if your chrome peels off…… It’s usually best to have the chrome & more importantly the nickel chem-stripped if at all possible. Unfortunately, very few actually do this. Most will strip chrome but that is useless unless you can get the nickel off which is even harder to blast.
 

stangboy

Founding Member
Aug 31, 1999
3,932
469
194
New Orleans, LA
Dec 16, 2013
#15
  • Dec 16, 2013
  • #15
Thank you @CCPcoatings for the facts and comparisons. That's exactly what I needed.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

S
what would you do? sell the project and buy completed or finish project?
  • STANG32
  • Feb 8, 2025
  • 1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk-
Replies
4
Views
573
1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk- Feb 16, 2025
rusty428cj
J
68 Mustang with Foxbody Engine Stalling Issues - MSPNP2
  • JayV68Stang
  • Mar 13, 2025
  • Digital Self-tuning Forum
Replies
3
Views
401
Digital Self-tuning Forum Mar 13, 2025
JayV68Stang
J
SOLD 1993 Mustang Cobra / 114K miles / Modified / Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
  • Naja
  • Oct 4, 2023
  • Fox Body Mustangs For Sale (1979-93)
Replies
5
Views
12K
Fox Body Mustangs For Sale (1979-93) Feb 26, 2025
Naja
Place to Avoid: Jamison Auto Group in Gulfport, MS
  • D Durden
  • Oct 20, 2025
  • 1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk-
  • 2 3
Replies
45
Views
2K
1965 - 1973 Classic Mustangs -General/Talk- Feb 4, 2026
nickyb
J
Progress Thread Family member 1989 GT- Backstory and updates
  • JRC99
  • Apr 19, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
15
Views
1K
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Oct 26, 2025
JRC99
J
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?