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I heard from somebody to take a coffee can, bolt it somewhere under the hood and run a fuel line in it and coil it up then add dry ice to the can and it will give a bit more hp.Does this really work?
 

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King Cobra 22 said:
I heard from somebody to take a coffee can, bolt it somewhere under the hood and run a fuel line in it and coil it up then add dry ice to the can and it will give a bit more hp.Does this really work?
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From what I gathered from that, you mean to coil the fuel line inside the coffee can & add dry ice to it to cool the fuel. It won't make a difference at all. Actually, it will probably make your car run rich

Since the car calculates a/f ratio by measuring the incoming air charge, and injecting a specific amount of fuel to make it combust, this will make the amount of fuel coming into each cylinder be more than normal, because the fuel is more dense, so a injector pulse duration of .5 seconds will now have the amound of fuel of a injector pulse width that lasts .6 seconds (numbers made up, just making a point).

So, unless you get a dyno tune for the change in fuel, you will run rich. But even with a tune, your car will not produce more power.

Fuel doesn't get very hot compared to the incoming air charge. Also, since there is about 13-15 times the amount of air in each cylinder per combustion cycle, it doesn't make sense to try to play with the amount/density of fuel coming in.

It all comes down to sucking the most air per cycle. The car can always add more fuel at will.
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mo_dingo said:
From what I gathered from that, you mean to coil the fuel line inside the coffee can & add dry ice to it to cool the fuel. It won't make a difference at all. Actually, it will probably make your car run rich

Since the car calculates a/f ratio by measuring the incoming air charge, and injecting a specific amount of fuel to make it combust, this will make the amount of fuel coming into each cylinder be more than normal, because the fuel is more dense, so a injector pulse duration of .5 seconds will now have the amound of fuel of a injector pulse width that lasts .6 seconds (numbers made up, just making a point).

So, unless you get a dyno tune for the change in fuel, you will run rich. But even with a tune, your car will not produce more power.

Fuel doesn't get very hot compared to the incoming air charge. Also, since there is about 13-15 times the amount of air in each cylinder per combustion cycle, it doesn't make sense to try to play with the amount/density of fuel coming in.

It all comes down to sucking the most air per cycle. The car can always add more fuel at will.
Scott
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Thanks for clearing that up!
 

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its a old school trick you see alot on carbed/sc cars......it was actually called a Cool Can.
it doesnt add horsepower, but it does help prevent vapor lock.

just cause it wouldent work too well on a EFI mustang doesnt mean its a useless idea, yall could be a little more open minded.
 

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Try the alcohol injection for cooling the air charge. I have heard of it making decent power. Not speaking from experience though.
 

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I was under the impression that the alcohol mist was mainly to cool the heated air from t/c and s/c applications. I had never heard of anyone running a n/a car with it.
 

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illwood said:
I was under the impression that the alcohol mist was mainly to cool the heated air from t/c and s/c applications. I had never heard of anyone running a n/a car with it.
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Snow performance sells their kit for N/A combinations as well as boosted combos.
 

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mstangfrk95GTS! said:
its a old school trick you see alot on carbed/sc cars......it was actually called a Cool Can.
it doesnt add horsepower, but it does help prevent vapor lock.

just cause it wouldent work too well on a EFI mustang doesnt mean its a useless idea, yall could be a little more open minded.
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It is useless as far as a street car is concerned. It's also useless as a horsepower adder.

Vapor lock? What is that????? Damn carbed vehicles.....

I was open minded about it. I thought about it's application to our cars, and I logically deduced that it would not be practical. This is the 1994-1995 mustang forums......Right?
Scott
 

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im just saying that if you have a car, usually carbed yes...that it can help cool down the gas lines so that it doesnt boil the gas in the lines.

anyone notice that in the summer your car with dumps runs kinda crappy?? its cause the ambient temp of your gas is higher, almost to the point of turning into a vapor maybe.

and no reason to have a attitude i was just pointing out that it DOES have a function and it DOES do something.
 
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Calm down ladies, I had never heard of this.. learned something tonight..
 
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