Hey guys, were not going to have a vendor arguing match.
Actually, as has already been pointed out Carroll Shelby never invented the "drop"
It was developed by Klaus Arning, a Ford suspension engineer, for use on the Ford Factory Rally Team Falcons, 63-64-65. It was part of the "Tech", Ford turned over to CS, for the GT 350. Thats why so many of us refer to it as the "Arning Drop"
Glen, you'll have to watch yourself, the guys in this forum are pretty sharp.
Don't be so shy, in fact pat yourself on the back whenever the opportunity presents itself. But also realize that some of the people on this forum have been involved with vintage Mustangs since they were new Mustangs.Well, I have been on classic or vintage Mustang forums for over 12 years now since I got my 65, and have about 30 thousand posts. And, I have never heard of an Arning drop or a UCA drop. You may be right, but I have just never heard of the Shelby drop referred to as any of those. Now, who is "Us?"
Back At Ya Soaring1, but please note,...its Tubo like 2-boAnd I thank you Turbo. That is good to know. I was a college student at UT Austin back when the first 65 Mustang was displayed on the floor of the
Ford house in Austin, and I remember telling myself that I would own one of those one day.
Sorry 'bout dat Tubo. Must be my stigmatism.Back At Ya Soaring1, but please note,...its Tubo like 2-bo
No One has really seen them yet, and they are saying that everyone elses are better, I don't get that either, Not here to argue.
I got Degins (Dennis) kit. Looks like it is all there and all I need to do is take my Advil and Glucosamine and get to work. Both those templates look the same to me. What is the difference between the 65-66 and the 67 up template?
Actually, as has already been pointed out Carroll Shelby never invented the "drop"
It was developed by Klaus Arning, a Ford suspension engineer, for use on the Ford Factory Rally Team Falcons, 63-64-65. It was part of the "Tech", Ford turned over to CS, for the GT 350. Thats why so many of us refer to it as the "Arning Drop"
Glen, you'll have to watch yourself, the guys in this forum are pretty sharp.
Well, I have been on classic or vintage Mustang forums for over 12 years now since I got my 65, and have about 30 thousand posts. And, I have never heard of an Arning drop or a UCA drop. You may be right, but I have just never heard of the Shelby drop referred to as any of those. Now, who is "Us?"
Hi Tubo,
Quick question:
I've read in a few Mustang books, and also heard the comment made by respected Mustang enthusiasts over the years, that Klaus Arning actually designed the lowered position of the UCA to work in harmoney with the IRS being developed fo the Mustang at the same time. And that, as you stated, the first racing use was in the Rally Falcons.
Since this came from people whom I respect, I've pretty much "parroted" this comment over the 30+ years of my involvment with Mustangs, and now am questioning the validity of my information.
Do you have anything that confirms the design was specifically for the Rally cars?
I hate when I post mis-information, and would prefer to be corrected now.
Thank you Sir!
Opentracker,
Speaking of improving suspension designs...
Is it true you have a new roller spring perch design you are working on?
Thought I heard something about a new design a little bit ago.
Hi Tubo,
Quick question:
I've read in a few Mustang books, and also heard the comment made by respected Mustang enthusiasts over the years, that Klaus Arning actually designed the lowered position of the UCA to work in harmoney with the IRS being developed fo the Mustang at the same time. And that, as you stated, the first racing use was in the Rally Falcons.
Since this came from people whom I respect, I've pretty much "parroted" this comment over the 30+ years of my involvment with Mustangs, and now am questioning the validity of my information.
Do you have anything that confirms the design was specifically for the Rally cars?
I hate when I post mis-information, and would prefer to be corrected now.
Thank you Sir!
Any documentation I had(Sports car magazine collection starting1962), was thrown away, while I was in Boot Camp1967.
I have run across refferences on the net from time to time, but its just one of those odd ball facts, that stick in my head, while much more important things are lost forever.
Our family bought, a new 63 1/2 Falcon Futura, 260, 4spd, and seeing(in magazines) the same type of car being rallyed in europe, really sparked my interest, Thats how it started for me.
Admittedly not much tech there.
It's true. We have three new roller spring perch designs. The roller perch we sell now will called a street roller perch. The other three will be an Autocross roller perch, a double roller drag racing perch and a double roller road racing perch. The double roller perches will let the shock pivot on it's own set of bearings, independent of the set the spring rides on. The testing is being done right now. I don't have any photo's to share but they are cool looking.
We have some other new stuff in the works too, like a page for Falcons only.
John
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