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215what

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Today i saw a all black 03 gt vert for sale,my girl wanted to look at it so we did got to drive it never drove one that year they look so good the 99+ but man it was so slow never been a fan of the 4.6 but I whould have thougt it was going to be lot faster then what it had it was a auto but still,my girl drove it to and she said ( I think my neon sxt can keep up) There's nothing like good ol 5.0 She like's my year but say's it's to old which it is geting to be pertty old.I still love are year's one of the best!
 

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I am not a fan of the 4.6 either. Very smooth motor, and it can produce some power, but at what cost? I like to feel the car and the engine. With some 4:10s, the car is not so bad, but they are just too smooth for my liking.
 

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4.6 = ghey
 

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you were driving an auto vert is one reason why. auto+vert=teh lose. I have a lot of respect for the newer 99-05 4.6, especially the DOHC. my friend has a 97 cobra It is a very nice, smooth motor, but if he nails it, will throw you back in the seat, extremely hard. Driving my 5.0 feels a lot rougher, but hey, its all good.
 
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LoudToy958 said:
I am not a fan of the 4.6 either. Very smooth motor, and it can produce some power, but at what cost? I like to feel the car and the engine. With some 4:10s, the car is not so bad, but they are just too smooth for my liking.
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Ummm you want a rough motor? Yours nuts bro...
 

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I kind of see it too. I've had 2 pushrod SN95's. The reason I bought them is because the ride is smooth (compared to the typical Fox) and still yet has the rough & tough 5.0. Smoother engines almost feel weak, no matter what kind it is. I test drove an '04 GT that felt just like the Stratus I was driving at the time.....
 
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my eyes started hurting when i finished reading that. Try using some of the tools you learned in english class next time.

And yes when you drive an auto, 4.6 vert GT, its obviously going to be slow, but not as slow as the 94/95 auto GT vert. Go drive a 98' cobra and then see how you feel or better yet an 03'. The 5.0 motors have proven themselves as being great motors, but the 4.6 i think is deffinately a step UP. They have forged bottom ends, LOVE boost, rev higher, etc etc.
 

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fiveo'cobra said:
my eyes started hurting when i finished reading that. Try using some of the tools you learned in english class next time.

And yes when you drive an auto, 4.6 vert GT, its obviously going to be slow, but not as slow as the 94/95 auto GT vert. Go drive a 98' cobra and then see how you feel or better yet an 03'. The 5.0 motors have proven themselves as being great motors, but the 4.6 i think is deffinately a step UP. They have forged bottom ends, LOVE boost, rev higher, etc etc.
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I thought only the 03-04 Cobras had the forged bottom ends?
 

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Another 4.6L testdrive taken the wrong way. Fooled by the smooth powerband. Plus the 4r70w equipped vert didn't help. They will beat a 5.0L in equal trim with no question in every performance category.
 
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5.0_GT_kid said:
I thought only the 03-04 Cobras had the forged bottom ends?
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You are correct sorta. The 03/04's DID have all forged bottom ends aka(everything is forged). The SN95 mod motors have forged pistons and crank. I know im missing something if anyone wants to fill in.
 

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Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up
 

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I used to own an automatic 99 GT convertible. With Flowmaster American Thunder cat-back and a home made cold air intake it ran 14.4s...which is what my 5.0L automatic coupe did after gears, advanced timing, catless H-pipe and Flows, cold air intake, shift kit, and other bolt-ons.
 

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the only way the 5.0 beats the 4.6 is that its easier to work on, cheaper to mod, and has a better exhaust note, IMHO. Other then that, the 4.6 motor is superior. The DOHC 4V motor is an absolute monster.
 

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fiveo'cobra said:
And yes when you drive an auto, 4.6 vert GT, its obviously going to be slow, but not as slow as the 94/95 auto GT vert. Go drive a 98' cobra and then see how you feel or better yet an 03'. The 5.0 motors have proven themselves as being great motors, but the 4.6 i think is deffinately a step UP. They have forged bottom ends, LOVE boost, rev higher, etc etc.
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After Ford developed the 4.6 more it became a decent motor; especially the 4v motors. I think people either love it or hate it depending on whether they like the more refined power of the mod motors or the brutish power of the 5.0s. Ease of modifying and maintaining is also a factor in the love\hate relationship. Apart from both engines being V8s and in Mustangs it's basically comparing apples and oranges and comes down to personal preference. My father's '98 GT seemed like it picked up faster (and smoother) in stock trim than my '95 when it was stock but I still prefered the '95 based on the low end torque.
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Never been A fan of the 4.6 sohc, but the dohc is a deferent story. I have raced A lot of 4.6's with mod's are kinda fast but stock one's are A good race and all have is exhuast so not sure on what all the hipe is about. The 99+ are one the best looking mustang's but more of a every day'er in my opinion!
 

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i'm a 5.0 guy till i die. The torque is soo much fun. Take a 4.6 and stick some 2:73's on it and see how much you like it then.

i would like to see a 5.0 with 2:73's stock vs. a stock SOHC 99+ 4.6 with 2:73's.
 

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The 99+ would still beat it with 273's. They dyno 40rwhp more than a stock 5.0L and that is across the racing board.

It doesn't matter who beat who on the street. Most of the time the driver isn't a "racer" and isn't shifting at the proper rpm or quick enough.

I have beat a 03 zo6 before to 100mph in my 2000 GT...but does that mean it is faster...heck no!...that means I outdrove him.

I have had both and anybody that has had both can tell you that the 99+ is superior in every performance category.

My friends 98Gt is quicker than my friends 95 Gt and that is with the same driver (me). Downlow it is close (a tie) but up top as the speeds increase the 4.6L starts a slow pull.

Stock 5.0L is no contest for a 99+...
 

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I have had both and anybody that has had both can tell you that the 99+ is superior in every performance category.
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I also had both. I somewhat disagree with you.

In my opinion, it is cheaper and easier to make a 5.0 fairly quick. The 4.6 is a pain to work on. When I owned mine, parts were still under development as well, and my options were limited. I couldn't even find a nitrous system for mine as I didn't want to drill into the plastic intake manifold for a wet kit and dry kits didn't exist due to the returnless fuel system.

Making the 4.6 fast might not be hard anymore, but it still certainly isn't cheap. There is not "budget 4.6 build up" like you can do with the 5.0. Hell, there are I think only 2 options if you want a performance intake manifold for the 4.6?

I hope that the new 3-valve motor drives prices down on 2-valve performance parts, because the 99+ 4.6 is a great engine stock and cheap heads and intakes would be great to have.

Stock to stock, the 99 and newer SOHC 4.6 beats the 5.0 anyway you look at it, but when you start modifying I think it's a different story.
 
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Flame me....but this is the same as the chevy forums, lt1 vs. ls1 thats about the same think some people love the old some love the new.Bottom line the 4.6 is faster stock but who cares?!There are advantages to 5.0 being easier/cheaper to mod, and the number of mods avaliable.Iv'e never driven a 4.6 but i like my 5.0.
 

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all this talk of the 99+ SOHC. how about stock for stock vs a 96-98 SOHC?
 
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