Dyoct, I need your help!!!!

Siggy33 · Dec 6, 2005

The Ford dealership I ordered my car from just called me and told me that my GT was on hold "indefinately" because I ordered it with the optional 18" polished "bullit-style" wheels. Apparently they are not producing any GTs with these wheels right now for reasons unknown to my dealership. They say that they do not know how long the wheels will be on hold and are saying it could be a while. Do you, or anyone, know why this is or how long it will be? Is there any way around this? Any recommendations would help...

I was REALLY looking forward to getting my car and this news couldn't have come at a worse time because my sister just today wrecked her 2003 GT which was the car that I was using while mine was being built so I need to make a decision soon...crap...

Dyoct · Dec 6, 2005

What was your order number and dealer again? You are out in Cali right?

Siggy33 · Dec 6, 2005

yeah, it was Bob Baker Ford in San Diego. My name is John Signorino and I believe that my order number was 1642....but I am very unsure about that. I'll look around and see if I can find it. It is a Black on Black GT, 5-spd, IUP, etc etc...

Dyoct · Dec 7, 2005

Checked with a rep this morning. The 64W wheels are on commodity control at 8% of production due to supply. I couldn't get a definitive time frame on how long you'd be waiting. The dealer knew this from the start too I've been told, or should have known this. If the dealer is ordering lots of Mustangs then maybe they'll get a couple with the wheels on it.

Siggy33 · Dec 7, 2005

I was never notified of this by my dealer. Here comes the question barrage D ): What do you mean by "commodity control of 8% of production supply"? Does it mean that they are only letting 8% of the GTs being produced leave the factory w/ the 64w wheels? Or does it mean that only 8% of the GTs that order those wheels will actually get them? What is the reason behind Ford doing this? With an indefinate amount of time I could be waiting and your experience w/ these holds, what would you recommend I do? Sorry for all the questions and thank you in advance.

PS: dude, you are the man for checkin this stuff out for me

Dyoct · Dec 7, 2005

Thanks! It means that 8% of GTs currently produced will have those wheels. It's due to a supplier issue. Ford doesn't manufacture the wheels, they simply buy them and put them on the cars. Even though I work this company, I'm still amazed that technically speaking we don't "build" the entire car (not just Mustangs, any car). I don't have any idea how long you can be waiting to get your Mustang because of that wheel option. Hopefully at some point going forward the supply catches up with demand and then any order with the wheels can be fulfilled, hence why I said 8% currently. Next month there could be a supply say 100,000 wheels and there would be no wait whatsoever due to that option or next month it could still be 8%.

Dyoct · Dec 7, 2005

Oh I failed to mention, the commodities HAVE to be used on weekly basis. So if say all of California has 20 sets they can put orders for then they will look for those 20 and work on up the commodities list. At least thats how I did it when I did orders back in the day. Example, California can have 300 Mustangs built in a week, of those 300, 150 can be GTs, out of those 150, 55 can be manuals. Out of the 150 GTs, 24 can have the 18" wheels regardless of trans option. I'd pull the order bank for the California region, find 24 orders that have that option and schedule accordingly, 01 their priority code then move on through the others, schedule the remaining manuals, remaining GTs, remaining Mustangs.

D.Hearne · Dec 7, 2005

Why not just get the car without the wheels and buy them later, thru the aftermarket? I had the same problem getting mine with the manual trans, but that's not something easily replaced later on, wheels are. You can buy just about any style wheel on your own to replace whatever's on the car.

351CJ · Dec 7, 2005

D.Hearne said:
Why not just get the car without the wheels and buy them later, thru the aftermarket? I had the same problem getting mine with the manual trans, but that's not something easily replaced later on, wheels are. You can buy just about any style wheel on your own to replace whatever's on the car.

I wouldn't because it will cost a lot more $$ to do it that way.

Siggy33 · Dec 7, 2005

D. Hearne, I agree w/ 351CJ. The 18" wheel option is a total bargain considering it is only $830 for new wheels and tires. It would cost me that much just for tires alone if I were to buy it through the aftermarket.

D.Hearne · Dec 7, 2005

I don't see where you figure it's an extra $830 for wheels AND tires. The $830 is just for wheels, the car comes with tires, regardless of what wheels you go with. Do a search on just ebay and there's tons of similar 17" wheels there for far less than $830. There's virtually no difference in handling or appearance between a 17 and 18inch tire/wheel combo. Anyone who says there is, is splitting hairs.

Siggy33 · Dec 8, 2005

D. Hearne, the reason I say you get new tires is because the standard GT comes w/ 17" wheels/tires and we all know that a 17" tire will not fit on an 18" wheel. Therefore the factory includes new 18" tires w/ your purchase of the 18" wheels - hence $830 for wheels AND tires. This is what makes it a bargain, because there is no way you could get 4 aftermarket 18" wheels and tires for less than that. Also, I believe that there is a significant appearance difference between a 17" wheel an 18" counterpart, otherwise why would Ford produce them and so many GT owners opt for them. My logic could be way off, just my $.02...

celticstanger · Dec 8, 2005

Ask around and see how much you'd get for your new 17's, and factor that too. I'd guess anywhere upwards of $600+ (I was offered that straight-up when I switched mine), so you're actually looking at $1,400+

D.Hearne · Dec 8, 2005

celticstanger said:
Ask around and see how much you'd get for your new 17's, and factor that too. I'd guess anywhere upwards of $600+ (I was offered that straight-up when I switched mine), so you're actually looking at $1,400+

Must be dyslexic to come up with that If you got the car with 17's and sold them to buy 18's, then you'd subtract the sale price of the 17's from the purchase price of the 18's. So, If you bought a set of 18's for $1000 and sold the 17's for $600, you'd only be adding $400 to the price of wheels and tires. Conversely, if you ordered the car with the stock 16's, you're essentially getting them for free ( the car doesn't come without them ) since the purchase price doesn't change. Sell them and apply that to the purchase of whatever you choose, if you shop wisely, you can STILL get a set of 18's for the same price as the factory 18" option. If you're letting the lack of 18" wheels stop you from getting the car, somethings wrong here.

celticstanger · Dec 8, 2005

D.Hearne said:
Must be dyslexic to come up with that If you got the car with 17's and sold them to buy 18's, then you'd subtract the sale price of the 17's from the purchase price of the 18's. So, If you bought a set of 18's for $1000 and sold the 17's for $600, you'd only be adding $400 to the price of wheels and tires.

To spend. He'd have have $1400+ to spend.

EDIT : to further clarify - if he's prepared to put down $830 for the upgrade, add the $600+ he can get for the regular set and go shopping for 18's at around $1,400.

Siggy33 · Dec 8, 2005

Celticstanger, what wheels did you sell for $600? The 17" bullits? who would pay that much for them, aren't they only a $200 optioin from the factory? I ask this because what you say intrigues me - I could get an absolutely awesome wheel/tire combo for $1400. How did you sell them, on ebay?

I just wish I could make up my freakin mind, the dealership keeps callin and askin what I wan't to do and I have NO idea yet...

D.Hearne · Dec 8, 2005

Want me to call them for you?

celticstanger · Dec 8, 2005

I had the 'upgraded' rims on my 05 (not the bullits). I didn't take the offer of $600 - prefer to have them gather dust in my garage (ie. stoopid mistake). Not sure what stock rim/tire combo your 06 would come with, but I'd assume you could get something like a similar deal for them. The guy at American Tire offered me the $600 right there on the spot, but I'd planned on selling them myself (gotta figure he was planning on making $ off them, so why not sell em for more, myself?).

I'd ask your dealer and other local shops and see what they'd give you, so you know for sure what your cost would be.

D.Hearne · Dec 8, 2005

As for what the O.E wheels sell for, I've been looking for an extra set of the 17" aluminum ones for mine. Yea, they're a $195 option, but so far of all the one's I've seen offered, the seller wants at least double what he paid for them. I want a set to paint black. to run with a set of raised white letter tires on.

Siggy33 · Dec 8, 2005

That would look sweet, I'll let ya know if I go with that option.

Dyoct, I need your help!!!!

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